Even reporters are saying it...

[ChiComCat]

http://www.omaha.com/article/20101018/SPORTS/710189864/0

The idea that Gill, a former Nebraska star, could lose his job at Kansas after one season seems ludicrous.

But it will be discussed — and I mean by KU decision-makers — for two reasons.

First, the topic is on the table after consecutive losses to longtime doormat Baylor 55-7 and at home to rival Kansas State 59-7, the second more egregious because KU had 12 days to practice and K-State was coming off a 35-point loss to Nebraska.

The Jayhawks looked woefully ill-prepared and showed little effort in both games. Plus, Gill's postgame interviews were filled with long pauses and no concrete answers.

Second, Kansas is searching for a new athletic director. As abhorrent as it might seem, it is possible for those in charge to decide Gill's hiring was a mistake, end his term in November and allow the new A.D. to pick his own coach.

That is a bone-chilling scenario, but unfortunately it can't be dismissed.

Gill is getting pummeled nationally for his Victorian Era rules of no cell phones for players the 24 hours before a game and no female companionship after 10 p.m. every day.

Closer to home, Kansas State fans are taunting the Jayhawks by referring to Gill as “Ron Prince Jr.,'' a dig about the inexperienced and ineffective former K-State coach who was fired after three seasons.

Gill repeatedly used the word “faith'' during Monday's teleconference. He'll need all of that he can get to plow through what looks like a 2-10 season.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Never heard him referred to as rp jr. 

[kcpowercat]

[Dugout DickStone]

What was Mark Mangino's first year record?

[ksu5nw]

I only saw a pic of gill with ron prince's face photoshopped over him. 

And to answer your question Limestone, it was 2-10.

[kcpowercat]

What was Mark Mangino's first year record?

Mangino 1 Golden Corral 0

(too soon?)

[yoga-like_abana]

What was Mark Mangino's first year record?

Mangino 1 Golden Corral 0

(too soon?)

how have you posted 73 times on this site. gtfooh

[Dugout DickStone]

So if they both finish 2-10 the first year but ku fires one coach after they kept the other coach for 6 years...how do you explain it besides the coach's race?

[Bookcat]

What was Mark Mangino's first year record?

Terry Allen's leftovers

vs/


Mangino's post Orange Bowl recruiting class....


This isn't hard.

[kcpowercat]

What was Mark Mangino's first year record?

Mangino 1 Golden Corral 0

(too soon?)

how have you posted 73 times on this site. gtfooh

   

[CHONGS]

So if they both finish 2-10 the first year but ku fires one coach after they kept the other coach for 6 years...how do you explain it besides the coach's race?

I don't think you can....

[Dugout DickStone]

I certainly understand what the pre-loaded excuse for being racist will be but didn't ku lose seven in a row and finish dead last in the north before TG got there?  He was inheriting a total disaster. 

[Jeffy]

What was Mark Mangino's first year record?

Pretty much the same as every year he was there, except for the job-saving year.

[Ira Hayes]

Mangino recruited a bunch of garbage human beings with athletic talent that he could beat into football players.  Is it any wonder that Gill can't even get them to try?

Give Turner another 6-8 years and they will have one of the finest and most highly respected programs in the nation.

[Big Sam]

Mangino recruited a bunch of garbage human beings with athletic talent that he could beat into football players.  Is it any wonder that Gill can't even get them to try?

Give Turner another 6-8 years and they will have one of the finest and most highly respected programs in the nation.

Very true.  Let's be honest, if you were a POS and played college ball, who would scare the crap out of you so that you busted ass - a very hungry Jabba the Hut or Radio? 

Sam S.

[ksu5nw]

Mangino recruited a bunch of garbage human beings with athletic talent that he could beat into football players.  Is it any wonder that Gill can't even get them to try?

Give Turner another 6-8 years and they will have one of the finest and most highly respected programs in the nation.

Very true.  Let's be honest, if you were a POS and played college ball, who would scare the crap out of you so that you busted ass - a very hungry Jabba the Hut or Radio? 

Sam S.

Did you really just compare Turner to a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) person? Not cool man. 

[jtksu]

How is comparing one Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to another Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) not cool?  I bet you look like that kid who made all those 3's...

[Paul Moscow]

Mangino recruited a bunch of garbage human beings with athletic talent that he could beat into football players.  Is it any wonder that Gill can't even get them to try?

Give Turner another 6-8 years and they will have one of the finest and most highly respected programs in the nation.

Very true.  Let's be honest, if you were a POS and played college ball, who would scare the crap out of you so that you busted ass - a very hungry Jabba the Hut or Radio? 

Sam S.

Did you really just compare Turner to a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) person? Not cool man. 

Stop letting the mentally challenged have that word. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) is our word now. We like it and use it much more hilarious ways, you Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[g2brg]

Need to factor in the facility improvements, track was resurfaced during Mangino's tenure.

 

[The Whale]

The admins might talk about it, until they realize the huge buyout they'd have to pay.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The admins might talk about it, until they realize the huge buyout they'd have to pay.

This. All $10 million of Gill's contract is guaranteed. At this point, KU might be better off abandoning football like they did until Mangino got there.

[sonofdaxjones]

Wow . . . we took heat for firing a guy who was clearly in over his head after 2.5 seasons.   What are they going to get if they can Gill after one??

I believe in a few months Gill's buyout will "only" be $8 million.   But their coordinators likely have 2 year contracts, so canning the whole staff will still likely cost about $10 million. 

What's worse, the MOU spelled on a napkin or Lew paying Gill $2 million a year and giving him a 5 year contract with a buyout worth his full salary for every year remaining??   Hell, at least Krause deferred the payments to Prince. 

[CHONGS]

Wow . . . we took heat for firing a guy who was clearly in over his head after 2.5 seasons.   What are they going to get if they can Gill after one??

I believe in a few months Gill's buyout will "only" be $8 million.   But their coordinators likely have 2 year contracts, so canning the whole staff will still likely cost about $10 million. 

What's worse, the MOU spelled on a napkin or Lew paying Gill $2 million a year and giving him a 5 year contract with a buyout worth his full salary for every year remaining??   Hell, at least Krause deferred the payments to Prince. 

To be honest KSU got very little heat.  It was mostly ksu fans playing the "media hates us" martyr card as we so deftly do.

[FHSU92]

Mangino recruited a bunch of garbage human beings with athletic talent that he could beat into football players.  Is it any wonder that Gill can't even get them to try?

Give Turner another 6-8 years and they will have one of the finest and most highly respected programs in the nation.

It would be very similar to Wooly in bball here.  We were well respected for our graduation rate and Wooly was a great guy.  I hope ku can experience that kind of respect for a change they've had to go through a lot the past few years with all that's been dumped on them lately.

[CNS]

If I were TG, I would be praying for a pink slip and the $8M at the end of this season.