The Future

[PoetWarrior]

Elite programs exist because of their elite talent.

Elite talent is a result of being an elite program.

Whether or not Kansas State has an elite basketball program, we can't say.

It seems however, that if at any point you are elite, you should, in theory, be capable of holding onto your eliteness.

[EllToPay]

It seems however, that if at any point you are elite, you should, in theory, be capable of holding onto your eliteness.

[michigancat]

players go where they're told to go by their people, who, in theory, should be our people.  think art alverez.  think Te '430k.

don't give me this "I saw them on ESPN2" or "the better we are, the better we recruit" bullshit.  our staff needs to continue to leverage and strengthen our connections in the aau circuit while at the same time building new ones. 

I agree.  Getting on TV is nice, but it isn't like we received any kind of serious bump from the Beasley/Walker ESPN lovefest.  (If we did, )

[sys]

kstate is on natl tv more this year than in 07-08.


and they signed a top 25 class the nov following that season.  what more, exactly, did you want? 

[SleepFighter]

Frank becoming a rock star can't hurt either.

[michigancat]

kstate is on natl tv more this year than in 07-08.


and they signed a top 25 class the nov following that season.  what more, exactly, did you want? 

the class had nothing to do w/ TV. 

[catzacker]

TV helps.  Don't know how it can't.  Wouldn't be the sole reason some kid came to ksu (and I don't think anyone's saying otherwise) but it at a minimum is something that should help you either establish connections and/or strengthen them.  I mean, no one's denying that the connection to 'Te is why Mike, Samuels, Wally, McGruds came....but there were, like, many other DCA'ers that didn't come to ksu....so maybe since we do get more exposure, we get more of those kids.  Or maybe it strengthens our Gauchos relationships because we're viewed as a better program and the kids see Kelly punking Texas.  I dunno. 

[sys]

the class had nothing to do w/ TV. 

impossible to know.

[michigancat]

the class had nothing to do w/ TV. 

impossible to know.

Well, Judge and McGruder committed before Beasley played a game.  Russell and Irving might have been influenced, but

[pissclams]

the class had nothing to do w/ TV.  

impossible to know.

i'm sure tv doesn't hurt, just saying that if we want to focus on one thing - it's the relationship our staff has with handlers, because ultimately (tony mitchell/stephon hannah) it doesn't much matter where the kid wants to play and whether or not he saw us beat Baylor on ESPN2 or whatever.  

and the transfer thing, we hit the powerball twice.  clems/ck are by far the exception to the transfer rule - remember Goody's impact transfer article.  i'd be surprised if we are ever able to get a transfer to produce like they have.

[sys]

i'm sure tv doesn't hurt, just saying that if we want to focus on one thing - it's the relationship our staff has with handlers, because ultimately (tony mitchell/stephon hannah) it doesn't much matter where the kid wants to play and whether or not he saw us beat Baylor on ESPN2 or whatever.  

some recruits jump at the first offer that's pushed on them, but not all do.  they all want to be on tv.


why focus on just one thing?  who thinks that recruits only look at one thing?

[pissclams]

i'm sure tv doesn't hurt, just saying that if we want to focus on one thing - it's the relationship our staff has with handlers, because ultimately (tony mitchell/stephon hannah) it doesn't much matter where the kid wants to play and whether or not he saw us beat Baylor on ESPN2 or whatever. 

some recruits jump at the first offer that's pushed on them, but not all do.  they all want to be on tv.


why focus on just one thing?  who thinks that recruits only look at one thing?

your momma

[nicname]

IMO the whole "Saw them on TV and really wanted to be a part of it" really only works on 3 star or less caliber players

you have it backwards.  recruits don't see crap on tv and want to be part of it.  they go to teams that are on tv a lot because they want to be on tv.


elite recruits don't go to teams that aren't going to play on natl tv.  sub-elite recruits only do if they can't get offers from a team that's on tv more.

QFT.  Mizzou is a pretty good example as well.  After last season their recruiting got a huge boost. 

If someone doesn't think that two straight top ten seasons doesn't influence high-level recruits, they should probably have their head checked.

[michigancat]

IMO the whole "Saw them on TV and really wanted to be a part of it" really only works on 3 star or less caliber players

you have it backwards.  recruits don't see crap on tv and want to be part of it.  they go to teams that are on tv a lot because they want to be on tv.


elite recruits don't go to teams that aren't going to play on natl tv.  sub-elite recruits only do if they can't get offers from a team that's on tv more.

QFT.  Mizzou is a pretty good example as well.  After last season their recruiting got a huge boost. 

Not really.  They just lucked into Mitchell, and Pressey was a family friend of Anderson.

[Cire]

I have hopes for Southwell.  good player in a good HS program.  Akeem Wright with good handles.

[steve dave]

To be fair, I have better handles than Akeem.

[Cire]

Akeem athletic ability with Stew like handles?

[steve dave]

Akeem athletic ability with Stew like handles?

That's just Akeem

[Cire]

no.

[steve dave]

no.

[Cire]

 

[SleepFighter]

no.

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[steve dave]

no.

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[SleepFighter]

no.

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steve dave 0

Stew was shockingly bad at handling the ball for someone whose primary responsibility was to handle the ball.

[Cire]

no.

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Stew was shockingly bad at handling the ball for someone whose primary responsibility was to handle the ball.

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