How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?

[sonofdaxjones]

The Let Kansas Store the Really Dangerous Stuff Act.

[ben ji]

ALL IS WELL

I just spoke with BigShotLobbyistCat and this is what they said

"Brownback spoke with DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano this morning regarding President Obama's proposal to reasses NBAF. "Secretary Napolitano and I had an excellent conversation this morning. She assured me the 'reassessment' had nothing to do with the need for or location fo the NBAF but rather with the overall cost and scope of the project" "DHS selected Manhattan Kansas as the location for NBAF on the merits and I fully esxpect that NBAF will be built here."

So its still going to be built...

[Rage Against the McKee]

ALL IS WELL

I just spoke with BigShotLobbyistCat and this is what they said

"Brownback spoke with DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano this morning regarding President Obama's proposal to reasses NBAF. "Secretary Napolitano and I had an excellent conversation this morning. She assured me the 'reassessment' had nothing to do with the need for or location fo the NBAF but rather with the overall cost and scope of the project" "DHS selected Manhattan Kansas as the location for NBAF on the merits and I fully esxpect that NBAF will be built here."

So its still going to be built...

Well Janet Napolitano might not even have a job in January, so who really knows?

[ben ji]

NOT SO FAST

Asked BSLC is this means it will still be built just delayed...

"Theoretically. One of those funny situations like boeing moving due to defense cuts. The entire Kansas Congressional Delegation is all about spending cuts - until it impacts Kansas. We'll see how the next election goes. Further right and funding will probably not be available for another 4 years"


VOTE OBAMA IF YOU WANT NBAF

[Dugout DickStone]

ALL IS WELL

I just spoke with BigShotLobbyistCat and this is what they said

"Brownback spoke with DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano this morning regarding President Obama's proposal to reasses NBAF. "Secretary Napolitano and I had an excellent conversation this morning. She assured me the 'reassessment' had nothing to do with the need for or location fo the NBAF but rather with the overall cost and scope of the project" "DHS selected Manhattan Kansas as the location for NBAF on the merits and I fully esxpect that NBAF will be built here."

So its still going to be built...

Translation:

Brownback:  I am very concerned about the NBAF for the next few months until I leave Kansas.
JN: STFU hayseed.
SB: k, thanks

[waks]

The Let Kansas Store the Really Dangerous Stuff Act.

Isn't the CDC in Atlanta? Why is it perfectly safe to have a lab that researches pathogens lethal to humans located in one of the biggest metros in the country, yet a breakout is imminent if they put NBAF in Manhattan?

[Cire]

The Let Kansas Store the Really Dangerous Stuff Act.

Isn't the CDC in Atlanta? Why is it perfectly safe to have a lab that researches pathogens lethal to humans located in one of the biggest metros in the country, yet a breakout is imminent if they put NBAF in Manhattan?

tornadoes

[Rage Against the McKee]

The Let Kansas Store the Really Dangerous Stuff Act.

Isn't the CDC in Atlanta? Why is it perfectly safe to have a lab that researches pathogens lethal to humans located in one of the biggest metros in the country, yet a breakout is imminent if they put NBAF in Manhattan?

tornadoes

Wouldn't they just do all of their research underground? It seems to me that that would solve the whole tornado problem.

[CNS]

The Let Kansas Store the Really Dangerous Stuff Act.

Isn't the CDC in Atlanta? Why is it perfectly safe to have a lab that researches pathogens lethal to humans located in one of the biggest metros in the country, yet a breakout is imminent if they put NBAF in Manhattan?

tornadoes

Wouldn't they just do all of their research underground? It seems to me that that would solve the whole tornado problem.

I imagine the concern is support/utilities to keep things maintained in case of a Greensburg type event.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The Let Kansas Store the Really Dangerous Stuff Act.

Isn't the CDC in Atlanta? Why is it perfectly safe to have a lab that researches pathogens lethal to humans located in one of the biggest metros in the country, yet a breakout is imminent if they put NBAF in Manhattan?

tornadoes

Wouldn't they just do all of their research underground? It seems to me that that would solve the whole tornado problem.

I imagine the concern is support/utilities to keep things maintained in case of a Greensburg type event.

Good point.

[Dugout DickStone]

Georgia gets tornadoes also.

[steve dave]

In The Stand when all the survivors headed to Georgia crap really hits the fan. 

[CNS]

No matter where you put it, of the states that raised their hands, there is a feasible catastrophe that could cause some issues.  That said, the reality is that structure can be designed to withstand the disaster, and all facilities like this will have emergency operation items to keep it running while the rest of the area cleans up and gets reorganized.  Generator banks, battery back ups, gas storage, back up chillers/heaters, etc.  There will be double, if not triple, redundancy in all their critical systems at least.  

Al the bullshit about nat dist's is just bullshit.  

This is about either crazy people being crazy or economic impact.  Most everything we have heard are people worried about the latter, using the former to scare everyone.

[CNS]

In The Stand when all the survivors headed to Georgia crap really hits the fan. 

also, there is a v large zombie issue there in Walking Dead

[Dugout DickStone]

In The Stand when all the survivors headed to Georgia crap really hits the fan. 

also, there is a v large zombie issue there in Walking Dead

NBAF could just have a big firebomb thing like the CDC has.  Prob solved.

[kso_FAN]

In The Stand when all the survivors headed to Georgia crap really hits the fan. 

also, there is a v large zombie issue there in Walking Dead

NBAF could just have a big firebomb thing like the CDC has.  Prob solved.

If NBAF goes through and something bad happens its likely Manhattan will get nuked. But it would be a quick, painless death, so no big deal.

[Dr Rick Daris]

so like, what's up with the fbi and super laser being under ood? was this common knowledge? seems like maybe we could just throw nbaf down there too, no?

[Dugout DickStone]

so like, what's up with the fbi and super laser being under ood? was this common knowledge? seems like maybe we could just throw nbaf down there too, no?

FBI and DHS do not get along at all.  Lots of competition and mistrust. 

I heard huge brawl at softball game between the 2 last summer on a hard takeout slide of Janet at home.

[CNS]

DHS is probs concerned about power reqmt.  I mean, what happens when the FBI super cancer laser is fired all the way up and in use while, across the street,  they need some large amt of power to play with and store some new form of cow anthrax?  Either all the cows get anthrax, or Obama isn't going to get cancer....

Then, what happens if this happens in the early evening when all the treadmills are in use at the Rec and Snyder has all the lights and sound noise going in practice for our first TCU trip?

[felix rex]

so like, what's up with the fbi and super laser being under ood? was this common knowledge? seems like maybe we could just throw nbaf down there too, no?

FBI and DHS do not get along at all.  Lots of competition and mistrust. 

I heard huge brawl at softball game between the 2 last summer on a hard takeout slide of Janet at home.

Everybody makes fun of the DHS. Big inferiority complex over there.

[waks]

The Let Kansas Store the Really Dangerous Stuff Act.

Isn't the CDC in Atlanta? Why is it perfectly safe to have a lab that researches pathogens lethal to humans located in one of the biggest metros in the country, yet a breakout is imminent if they put NBAF in Manhattan?

tornadoes

Meh. K-State's nuclear reactor took a direct hit from the tornado and all that happened was the roof blew off. I think they can figure out how to tornado proof a $650 million facility.

[KITNfury]

Rock beats tornado in the paper rock tornado game of life.

[steve dave]

Tornados are the pussiest of the natural disastors.  Good grief.  They wouldn't get so much media play if it wasn't for stupid hicks in the midwest insisting on living in prefab houses and trailer parks. 

[EllToPay]

Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback says a reassessment of the National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility by the Obama administration will focus on the price tag — not whether and where it should be built.

In a release Tuesday, Brownback said he spoke with U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who told him the review was focused only on the cost and scope of the facility, slated to be built at Kansas State University .

“DHS selected Manhattan, Kan., as the location of the NBAF on the merits. And I fully expect that the NBAF will be built here,” the governor said.
On Monday, the Obama administration’s budget request for DHS included no new construction dollars for NBAF. The administration said it would conduct “a comprehensive assessment of whether and for what purpose a ... facility should be stood up.”

The $650 million lab would replace an aging facility at Plum Island, N,Y., that conducts research on diseases, such as hoof-and-mouth and H1N1 influenza, that could present a threat to the public or the country’s agricultural infrastructure.

The facility has attracted opposition from other parts of the country, which have gone so far as to challenge the KSU siting in court, as well as agricultural interests concerned that an accident or other outbreak from the facility in the heart of the U.S. livestock industry could be devastating.

Brownback said he will schedule a meeting of the state’s NBAF Steering Committee later this month and that he and the state’s federal delegation will continue pushing for funding for NBAF.

saving face?

[WillieWatanabe]

did they ever sell Plum Island? I thought it was for sale a while back.