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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #100 on: December 27, 2013, 01:53:14 PM »
I got a French press and burr grinder for Christmas!
I don't know what the difference between a burr grinder and the normal grinder i have is but it sounds great!
Burr grinders just ensure more uniformity in the grind size.  A blade grinder produces a grind thats more of a range of particle size, getting smaller the longer you run it.

Burr grinders also preserve the oils of the bean and will provide you with a better tasting brew.

I get the uniformity part, but where do the oils go when you use a blade grinder?  Poof, they're gone?
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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #101 on: December 27, 2013, 02:03:37 PM »
I got a French press and burr grinder for Christmas!
I don't know what the difference between a burr grinder and the normal grinder i have is but it sounds great!
Burr grinders just ensure more uniformity in the grind size.  A blade grinder produces a grind thats more of a range of particle size, getting smaller the longer you run it.

Burr grinders also preserve the oils of the bean and will provide you with a better tasting brew.

I get the uniformity part, but where do the oils go when you use a blade grinder?  Poof, they're gone?

If you over grind,  you don't lose all of them, but the theory is that the heat will draw it out of the bean, separate it, and leave it on the inside of the grinder cup and blade and out of your cup.  If you grind for a french press, uniformity isn't horribly important as long as you don't have a super shitty grinder that gives you ultra fine mixed with barely ground.  I have been using a $30 black and decker elect grinder and a Boudin french press for like 6+ yrs now and don't get clogged filters or bad coffee.  I also don't notice very much coffee or oil residue in my grinder cup when I dump into my french press. 

This is why I think the burr grinder is splitting hairs.  I guess I could see the pour over needing more uniformity, but even then I don't fully think it is legit because the oil you reserve by burr grinding, you lose in your pour over filter. 

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #102 on: December 27, 2013, 02:16:34 PM »
So I need an 8 cup coffee cup  for the optimal French press experience?

Or pour all the coffee into another carafe after pressing.  Probably more convenient that way.
after heating up the carafe by rinsing with hot water to help address the biggest shortcoming of a French press

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2014, 11:18:02 AM »
Just ordered an aeropress.  Been using a French press at my desk for about a year.  Will report back on Monday with coffee smack.



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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #104 on: February 26, 2014, 11:20:54 AM »
Just ordered an aeropress.  Been using a French press at my desk for about a year.  Will report back on Monday with coffee smack.


I have one.  They make good stuff.  I like to fill the grounds up to 4, then fill water up to 4, then drink concentrate straight with very little sugar. 

It's good, but makes a pretty different product than what I make in my FP.  If you are a fan of Americano's you can make a very good Americano with the Aeropress.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #105 on: February 26, 2014, 11:26:11 AM »
_FAN, you put 10 whole scoops of grounds in, if you pour water in the thing to fill it up to the "10" mark? seems extremely strong

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #106 on: February 26, 2014, 11:29:35 AM »
There is no ratio of grounds to water or vice versa that can make Folgers taste anything near good.  Myth Busters type stuff here.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #107 on: February 26, 2014, 12:04:15 PM »
@CNS I love Americanos.  Are there specific instructions with the unit that will tell me how to do that or do I need to do some research?
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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #108 on: February 26, 2014, 12:15:36 PM »
Thought about an aero press many times, yet to pull the trigger. I really only enjoy one coffee, Community Coffee with Chicory (got addicted when living in New Orleans) and would like to get the most flavor out of it as possible. Aeropress a good route?  French press just as good? Used a FP most of the time down there, but the Aeropress seems like it would squeeze more flavor.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #109 on: February 26, 2014, 12:22:08 PM »
_FAN, you put 10 whole scoops of grounds in, if you pour water in the thing to fill it up to the "10" mark? seems extremely strong

I like it strong.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #110 on: February 26, 2014, 01:16:25 PM »
@CNS I love Americanos.  Are there specific instructions with the unit that will tell me how to do that or do I need to do some research?

There are specific instructions that tell you how to dilute with hot water to get you to the level of coffee you are looking for.

My bro got me this for my bday a couple yrs ago and he said there are sites that have really good recipes for other stuff too.  For example: he game me some recipe for some Vietnamese coffee desert drink thing he loves that uses condensed milk and a bunch of other stuff.  I haven't made anything other than espresso or americano with it and haven't dug into any other source of recipes yet either. 

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #111 on: February 26, 2014, 01:21:08 PM »
Thought about an aero press many times, yet to pull the trigger. I really only enjoy one coffee, Community Coffee with Chicory (got addicted when living in New Orleans) and would like to get the most flavor out of it as possible. Aeropress a good route?  French press just as good? Used a FP most of the time down there, but the Aeropress seems like it would squeeze more flavor.

I like my FP better for everyday coffee.

Both have great flavor, though. 

If you get the AP, spend the extra $15 and get the metal filter to keep from losing some oils.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #112 on: February 26, 2014, 02:29:26 PM »
man guys i'm not sure really what machine to go with.  i need to extract as much coffee flavor from each bean as possible.  scientifically possible.  if anyone can recommend the highest flavor from bean extraction unit on the market i would appreciate it.  thanks, coffee buds. 

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #113 on: February 26, 2014, 02:35:19 PM »
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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #114 on: February 26, 2014, 02:38:00 PM »
hey coffee bro, i'm being serious just like everyone else is here.  coffee flavor extraction 2014 son.  #whereyouat?  #beans4life #incredibleoils


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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #115 on: February 26, 2014, 02:40:38 PM »
Kueregs are really bad for the environment.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #116 on: February 26, 2014, 02:42:06 PM »
hey coffee bro, i'm being serious just like everyone else is here.  coffee flavor extraction 2014 son.  #whereyouat?  #beans4life #incredibleoils

If you were serious, you would already know that Coffee Flavor Extraction 2014 already took place earlier this year in San Diego at the Hyatt, that delicious full flavor coffee was enjoyed by all in attendance, and that the AeroPress was highlighted in Coffee Flavor Extraction 1982 not at CFE2014.  #ShockedNotShocked

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #117 on: February 26, 2014, 02:50:14 PM »
when working up a good cup o' joe, i start out by dry aging all of my beans for at least 45 days.  yes, this is a very time consuming and costly proposition but it leaves you with a highly concentrated bean (after i remove the spoiled part of the bean that decayed during my dry aging process). 

next up for the bean is the extraction process.  i actually use a centrifuge to extract the oils from my beans and then combine the oils from multiple 'fuges into one larger centrifuge that then concentrates those oils even further.  i take the resulting bean tar and put it into a very high temperature kiln which even further removes any remaining impurities.

what you're left with is 100% pure coffee bean taste.  i drink so many cups of it i hardly have time to do anything else! LOL.  but it's so good so who gives a crap. 


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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #118 on: February 26, 2014, 04:14:14 PM »
Whoa.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #119 on: February 26, 2014, 04:28:23 PM »
when working up a good cup o' joe, i start out by dry aging all of my beans for at least 45 days.  yes, this is a very time consuming and costly proposition but it leaves you with a highly concentrated bean (after i remove the spoiled part of the bean that decayed during my dry aging process). 

next up for the bean is the extraction process.  i actually use a centrifuge to extract the oils from my beans and then combine the oils from multiple 'fuges into one larger centrifuge that then concentrates those oils even further.  i take the resulting bean tar and put it into a very high temperature kiln which even further removes any remaining impurities.

what you're left with is 100% pure coffee bean taste.  i drink so many cups of it i hardly have time to do anything else! LOL.  but it's so good so who gives a crap.

Yeah I used to do the same thing, but then I got a keurig and it tasted the same as the tar method
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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #120 on: February 26, 2014, 05:46:02 PM »
Kueregs are really bad for the environment.

Could be. I love it.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #121 on: February 26, 2014, 06:48:36 PM »
Kueregs are really bad for the environment.

so are cars
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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #122 on: February 27, 2014, 12:40:17 AM »
There is no ratio of grounds to water or vice versa that can make Folgers taste anything near good.  Myth Busters type stuff here.

Folgers is garbage. Nothing can make it taste good. Learned that years ago.

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #123 on: February 27, 2014, 02:06:58 AM »
Got this as a birthday gift.  Loved it and used it all the time, but mine and most people I know have problems with them flaking out after a few years of heavy use

My wife wanted another single serve machine for the simplicity, and she loves this one (Tassimo T55).  It makes great coffee, cappuccino, latte, espresso, etc.  It reads the bar codes on the pods to automatically set optimal brew time, and mixes the appropriate water temp and amount.  Can also combine with pods for milk, cream, or foam.  The problem is pods are more expensive, harder to find, and less variety than K-cups.


I use a French press at work, but this is my machine at home (Breville BDC550XL - mine has glass carafe so it can be heated).  It has a built in burr grinder, and clock to automatically grind and start my coffee at the desired time each morning.  It lets you choose cup, travel mug, or carafe sized portions and you place desired container under the spout.  Depending on your pre-selected container size and brew strength, the Breville chooses the appropriate grind size, water temp, steep time, and water amount.  I have been extremely pleased with this machine so far. Breville is a tad expensive, but I also bought their juicer and have been impressed by the design and quality on both.


For those that like a dark, full-bodied, thick, non-acidic coffee I suggest Sumatra.  I typically just buy Costco brand.  For coffee that is already ground, I love illy

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Re: Coffee Makers
« Reply #124 on: February 27, 2014, 01:11:37 PM »
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