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« Reply #19350 on: March 17, 2021, 09:21:05 AM »

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« Reply #19351 on: March 17, 2021, 09:39:28 AM »
Chiefs were never close with this guy. Woof!

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« Reply #19352 on: March 17, 2021, 09:45:53 AM »
That 138 is a fake number. He won’t play year 3 on that deal.
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« Reply #19353 on: March 17, 2021, 10:28:57 AM »
That 138 is a fake number. He won’t play year 3 on that deal.

You think they're going to take an $18 million dead money hit from the signing bonus and cut him before Year 3?  I'm guessing there is guaranteed salary for Year 3 as well.  I don't see how he doesn't play at least four years on that deal just with the signing bonus alone.

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« Reply #19354 on: March 17, 2021, 10:50:32 AM »
Can’t we just sign really good players who are free agents to sign favorable 1 year deals to come win a super bowl. That seems like an ideal strategy.

I feel like we should be able to draft enough DITR studs to fill out the roster on the cheap and then plug the holes with thirsty veterans who haven't ever won anything.

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« Reply #19355 on: March 17, 2021, 10:53:41 AM »
That 138 is a fake number. He won’t play year 3 on that deal.

You think they're going to take an $18 million dead money hit from the signing bonus and cut him before Year 3?  I'm guessing there is guaranteed salary for Year 3 as well.  I don't see how he doesn't play at least four years on that deal just with the signing bonus alone.
I mean, maybe he plays 3 but not 4. I bet he restructures after 2. Guaranteed money was only 55.
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« Reply #19356 on: March 17, 2021, 03:27:08 PM »
That 138 is a fake number. He won’t play year 3 on that deal.

You think they're going to take an $18 million dead money hit from the signing bonus and cut him before Year 3?  I'm guessing there is guaranteed salary for Year 3 as well.  I don't see how he doesn't play at least four years on that deal just with the signing bonus alone.
I mean, maybe he plays 3 but not 4. I bet he restructures after 2. Guaranteed money was only 55.

Taking a stab at the yearly numbers, I came up with this:

Signing Bonus: $30 million (guaranteed)

Year 1: $1 million (guaranteed)
Year 2: $14 million (guaranteed)
Year 3: $19 million ($10 million guaranteed)
Year 4: $22 million
Year 5: $26 million
Year 6: $26 million

Why would he restructure after Year 2?  The 49ers have no leverage.  They're not going to cut him and take a $28 million cap hit to let him walk.  They would have to give him a lot more money to restructure the contract or convert a lot to a signing bonus.  If they convert to a signing bonus, that only increases the likelihood he plays on the contract in Year 4 and Year 5.

I doubt the 49ers would cut him before Year 4 as well.  They'd have to take a $12 million hit and find a new left tackle.  I don't think Williams would care that much if he got cut.  He would most likely get a nice payday somewhere else.  Given that, I count $86 million as very likely due to avoidance of dead money.  That's one reason players like signing bonuses.  It gives them some insurance against getting cut when the salary goes up.

He could maybe do a restructure before Year 4, but that is only going to result in him getting more guaranteed money as a signing bonus or guaranteed money for Year 5 and Year 6.

I do think it is likely that he would be cut or have to restructure after Year 4.  However, that means he would have earned $86 million and then is going to get some more guaranteed money with a restructure or will get paid by another team.  He might get $10-$15 million per year from another team for 2-3 years, but that would lead to him being paid over $100 million in six years.

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« Reply #19358 on: March 17, 2021, 07:49:01 PM »
Why not

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« Reply #19359 on: March 17, 2021, 07:49:46 PM »
Hopefully Niang and future drafted T as yet unnamed are good

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« Reply #19360 on: March 18, 2021, 08:09:57 AM »
Hopefully Niang and future drafted T as yet unnamed are good

I'm worried about finding a starting caliber LT out of that pool

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« Reply #19361 on: March 18, 2021, 08:15:07 AM »
Hopefully Niang and future drafted T as yet unnamed are good

I'm worried about finding a starting caliber LT out of that pool

Chiefs still have a lot of cap room left and there are still some dece OT's available. Even saw bringing Fish back at a reduced rate mentioned.

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« Reply #19362 on: March 18, 2021, 08:21:08 AM »
Hopefully Niang and future drafted T as yet unnamed are good

I'm worried about finding a starting caliber LT out of that pool

Chiefs still have a lot of cap room left and there are still some dece OT's available. Even saw bringing Fish back at a reduced rate mentioned.

Of the players we didn't release, Reiff and Villanueva are the only two out there that I have faith in.  I also wouldn't be surprised if we try to package a pick to move up for an OT in the middle of the first. 

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« Reply #19363 on: March 26, 2021, 06:09:37 AM »
So resigning Robinson.  I’m a bit surprised by that. 
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« Reply #19364 on: March 26, 2021, 09:56:55 AM »
So resigning Robinson.  I’m a bit surprised by that.

He's cheap, the other players love him, and it seems no other teams want him (for the second year in a row).   We also flubbed on our WR free agents, so had to do something.

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« Reply #19365 on: March 26, 2021, 02:29:25 PM »
So resigning Robinson.  I’m a bit surprised by that.

He's cheap, the other players love him, and it seems no other teams want him (for the second year in a row).   We also flubbed on our WR free agents, so had to do something.

Does this mean we will try to retain Watkins as well?  Or promote within and give Pringle full-time gig?

WR core is better with Watkins.
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« Reply #19366 on: March 26, 2021, 03:09:05 PM »
Maybe we shouldn’t have wasted our first round pick in last years draft

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« Reply #19367 on: March 26, 2021, 03:12:04 PM »
So resigning Robinson.  I’m a bit surprised by that.

He's cheap, the other players love him, and it seems no other teams want him (for the second year in a row).   We also flubbed on our WR free agents, so had to do something.

Does this mean we will try to retain Watkins as well?  Or promote within and give Pringle full-time gig?

WR core is better with Watkins.

Yeah that is a good question. I know that Watkins has been interviewing with other teams, but not sure how much he wants in salary.  I think DRob and Pringle will be competing for that WR 3/4 spot with Hardman.  We really need a reliable WR2, and that's not Watkins (because of health).  It was interesting that we offered JuJu more than Pitt did but he didn't take it.  I think the idea of competing for targets with Tyreek and Kelce is a problem.

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« Reply #19368 on: March 26, 2021, 04:09:36 PM »
So resigning Robinson.  I’m a bit surprised by that.

He's cheap, the other players love him, and it seems no other teams want him (for the second year in a row).   We also flubbed on our WR free agents, so had to do something.

Does this mean we will try to retain Watkins as well?  Or promote within and give Pringle full-time gig?

WR core is better with Watkins.

Yeah that is a good question. I know that Watkins has been interviewing with other teams, but not sure how much he wants in salary.  I think DRob and Pringle will be competing for that WR 3/4 spot with Hardman.  We really need a reliable WR2, and that's not Watkins (because of health).  It was interesting that we offered JuJu more than Pitt did but he didn't take it.  I think the idea of competing for targets with Tyreek and Kelce is a problem.

This is something that probably doesn't get brought up enough.  We really need to find those old dudes that have talent but want the SB and don't mind being 3rd or 4th option in the passing game.  I guess it wouldn't surprise me at this point to see Watkins come back. 
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« Reply #19372 on: March 31, 2021, 02:36:18 PM »
https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1376965636270723080?s=20

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« Reply #19373 on: March 31, 2021, 06:33:10 PM »
Oh!  Thank goodness.  I was worried that they were merely taking this one on the end.

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« Reply #19374 on: March 31, 2021, 08:10:35 PM »
20-0!!


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