fyi

[Dirty Sanchez]

And this guy wants to control business and the economy?

The percentage of each past president's (20th/21st Century) cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.  You know what the private business sector is... a real life business, not a government job.  Here are the percentages.

Eisenhower........... 57%
Reagan...................56%
GW Bush................ 55%
Nixon...................  53%
Wilson .................52%
GH Bush................. 51%
F. Roosevelt.........  50%
Truman..................50%
Harding..................49%
Coolidge..............  48%
Johnson.................47%
Ford..................... 42%
Hoover................. 42%
Taft.....................40%
Clinton   ................. 39%
T. Roosevelt........  38%
Carter..................  32%
Kennedy..............  30%
obama................ 8%

The line represents the average (44.1%)







 

[Rage Against the McKee]

This is only true if you don't consider being a lawyer a private practice. Also if you don't consider heading the AT&T electronics research lab, being a partner in a family farm, owning and operating a Dairy Queen, or serving as managing director of Prudential Mortgage Capital Company as private practice.

[michigancat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_eisenhower

When did Eisenhower work for a job that wasn't in the military, other than 5 years as president of Columbia university?

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_eisenhower

When did Eisenhower work for a job that wasn't in the military, other than 5 years as president of Columbia university?

I think the breakdown is that any job which requires an above average intelligence, like being a lawyer or researcher for a private firm does not count. Unless your degree is in business and you not only worked for a corporate business but ran it (doesn't matter if you were successful), you are not qualified to be a cabinet member such as defense secretary, attorney general, health and human services secretary, transportation secretary, education secretary, etc.

[Cire]

I got this email last week.

[Dirty Sanchez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_eisenhower

When did Eisenhower work for a job that wasn't in the military, other than 5 years as president of Columbia university?

I didn't realize Eisenhower as president was considered a cabinet position.

Don't even try to argue Ike.  Growing up in Abilene with an interest in history, I had probably forgotten more stuff about him by the age of 12 than you'll ever know.

[Saulbadguy]

Don't even try to argue Ike.  Growing up in Abilene with an interest in history, I had probably forgotten more stuff about him by the age of 12 than you'll ever know.

[Sugar Dick]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_eisenhower

When did Eisenhower work for a job that wasn't in the military, other than 5 years as president of Columbia university?

 

[michigancat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_eisenhower

When did Eisenhower work for a job that wasn't in the military, other than 5 years as president of Columbia university?

I didn't realize Eisenhower as president was considered a cabinet position.

Don't even try to argue Ike.  Growing up in Abilene with an interest in history, I had probably forgotten more stuff about him by the age of 12 than you'll ever know.

so I'm right?  No real life experience for "Ike"?

Also, I'm pretty sure your stats are made up.  Not smart to take a forwarded email at face value.

[Kat Kid]

 

[Sugar Dick]

This is only true if you don't consider being a lawyer a private practice. Also if you don't consider heading the AT&T electronics research lab, being a partner in a family farm, owning and operating a Dairy Queen, or serving as managing director of Prudential Mortgage Capital Company as private practice.

First of all, Dairy Queen?!?!?  GMAFB 

Secondly, if those jobs were included how would the stats shake out?  If you're going to bring up the point, you should probably justify whether or not its even relevant.

TIA
 

[jmlynch1]

This is only true if you don't consider being a lawyer a private practice. Also if you don't consider heading the AT&T electronics research lab, being a partner in a family farm, owning and operating a Dairy Queen, or serving as managing director of Prudential Mortgage Capital Company as private practice.

First of all, Dairy Queen?!?!?  GMAFB 
Secondly, if those jobs were included how would the stats shake out?  If you're going to bring up the point, you should probably justify whether or not its even relevant.

TIA
 

This has elitist commie written all over it.

[Jeffy]

[Rage Against the McKee]

This is only true if you don't consider being a lawyer a private practice. Also if you don't consider heading the AT&T electronics research lab, being a partner in a family farm, owning and operating a Dairy Queen, or serving as managing director of Prudential Mortgage Capital Company as private practice.

First of all, Dairy Queen?!?!?  GMAFB 

Secondly, if those jobs were included how would the stats shake out?  If you're going to bring up the point, you should probably justify whether or not its even relevant.

TIA
 

Well, it's hard to say because 1 cabinet member is 6% (16 member cabinet). I have no idea how the study found that 8% had private sector experience. I've looked for the study and can only find a graph with no explanation.

[jmlynch1]

This is only true if you don't consider being a lawyer a private practice. Also if you don't consider heading the AT&T electronics research lab, being a partner in a family farm, owning and operating a Dairy Queen, or serving as managing director of Prudential Mortgage Capital Company as private practice.

First of all, Dairy Queen?!?!?  GMAFB 

Secondly, if those jobs were included how would the stats shake out?  If you're going to bring up the point, you should probably justify whether or not its even relevant.

TIA
 

Well, it's hard to say because 1 cabinet member is 6% (16 member cabinet). I have no idea how the study found that 8% had private sector experience. I've looked for the study and can only find a graph with no explanation.

Well, yeah, the story is complete fabricated bullshit.

[michigancat]

Also, I'm pretty sure your stats are made up.  Not smart to take a forwarded email at face value.

LOL, of course it was bullsh*t:


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/dec/02/glenn-beck/beck-says-less-10-percent-obama-cabinet-members-ha/

Next step for the neocons:  attack politifact


Seriously, there are plenty of valid reasons to attack Obama.  I don't understand why the neocons don't steal those from Glenn Beck, (assuming they exist).  Things like this are just stupid and make it a lot more difficult to think you guys aren't complete morons.

[Saulbadguy]

[Dirty Sanchez]

The report I had was Investors Business Daily.

[Cire]

The report I had was Investors Business Daily.

yep, that's who the email was from

[michigancat]

The report I had was Investors Business Daily.

Those jackasses stole it from the original jackass Forbes article:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/24/michael-cembalest-obama-business-beltway-cabinet.html

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=519631

Notice that the only difference is Forbes went back and tweaked Obama's data after being called on their bullsh*t.  Is there anything about this email that wasn't 100% pure bullsh*t? 

[Cire]

OBAMA IS SATAN@@@@#$$$#@%%#@!

[Sugar Dick]

The report I had was Investors Business Daily.

Those jackasses stole it from the original jackass Forbes article:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/24/michael-cembalest-obama-business-beltway-cabinet.html

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=519631

Notice that the only difference is Forbes went back and tweaked Obama's data after being called on their bullsh*t.  Is there anything about this email that wasn't 100% pure bullsh*t? 

So, after your research, you found that regardless of the percentages, Obama's cabinet actually has the least private sector experience of any modern day cabinet???  And you follow that up with a question about whether anything in an email about Obama's cabinet having the least private sector experience is not complete bullshit???

Are you f*cking serious???   

[michigancat]

The report I had was Investors Business Daily.

Those jackasses stole it from the original jackass Forbes article:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/24/michael-cembalest-obama-business-beltway-cabinet.html

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=519631

Notice that the only difference is Forbes went back and tweaked Obama's data after being called on their bullsh*t.  Is there anything about this email that wasn't 100% pure bullsh*t? 

So, after your research, you found that regardless of the percentages, Obama's cabinet actually has the least private sector experience of any modern day cabinet??? 

Did you read any of those links?  He picked and chose cabinet positions to fit his agenda, made up bullshit rules of what constituted "private sector experience", and was flat out wrong about one of Obama's cabinet members.

In short, Sugar Dick, everything about it is bullshit, no matter what the Investor's Business Daily graph says.  Obama may, in fact, have the cabinet with the "least private sector experience", but only a complete moron would come to that conclusion after reading the politifact link.

[Saulbadguy]

I like how every presidents last name is capitalized except Obama.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If you read the politifact link, lawyers were only counted as 1/3 of a person. I didn't realize that they get paid 2/3 of their money from big government. Also,  at Sugar Dick mocking Dairy Queen ownership.