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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2010, 05:48:57 PM »
Kougs I know it's hard for you . . . but 2 of those 5 losses have come  . . . this year.



mike evans was such a senior leader that his senior year ('77-78) he allowed 2 home court losses in....Ahearn.  Remember how tough it was to play in Ahearn?  How could such a player let that happen.  And a legendary coach like Hartman?  JFC. 

Hey, bro, we met Hartman's granddaughter the other day. I'll let others fill you in on how that went...

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2010, 05:50:34 PM »
dax is the dprocket of goEMAW.com.

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2010, 06:05:17 PM »
The Octagon of Doom is obviously the best homecourt advantage in the country.

Sharon Collins thinks so. "Loudest place I ever played".

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2010, 07:47:21 PM »
Agree Zacker . . . IF that happens please feel free to point it out.

But, we'll have to toss out Frank's first year, because honestly, we should have been 8 and 0 at home with Bill Walker and Beasley . . . but I won't push that too hard, because some of you will stroke out at the simple thought of such demands being placed on KSU B-ball.  



then we should also throw out every game against nortards.  i mean those are games we were favored to win.  the only games in which we should judge our team are games where the katz are underdogs.

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2010, 07:54:07 PM »
Agree Zacker . . . IF that happens please feel free to point it out.

But, we'll have to toss out Frank's first year, because honestly, we should have been 8 and 0 at home with Bill Walker and Beasley . . . but I won't push that too hard, because some of you will stroke out at the simple thought of such demands being placed on KSU B-ball.  



then we should also throw out every game against nortards.  i mean those are games we were favored to win.  the only games in which we should judge our team are games where the katz are underdogs.


i was going to post this earlier as well and then i said to myself "self, why even bother". actually kind of admire dax for taking the wrong side of an argument and trying to argue it. oh well.

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2010, 08:00:06 PM »
Agree Zacker . . . IF that happens please feel free to point it out.

But, we'll have to toss out Frank's first year, because honestly, we should have been 8 and 0 at home with Bill Walker and Beasley . . . but I won't push that too hard, because some of you will stroke out at the simple thought of such demands being placed on KSU B-ball.  



then we should also throw out every game against nortards.  i mean those are games we were favored to win.  the only games in which we should judge our team are games where the katz are underdogs.


i was going to post this earlier as well and then i said to myself "self, why even bother". actually kind of admire dax for taking the wrong side of an argument and trying to argue it. oh well.

i guess if you want to judge a coach or a team in games in which they are only underdogs that's fine with me.  that's a pretty high standard and i don't really mind it.

i'm waiting for someone to compile those numbers for both road and home games over the last 3 seasons.  would be cool to know.  TIA

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2010, 08:23:31 PM »
Dax just marking his territory here, folks. Nothing to see.

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2010, 09:07:00 PM »
Agree Zacker . . . IF that happens please feel free to point it out.

But, we'll have to toss out Frank's first year, because honestly, we should have been 8 and 0 at home with Bill Walker and Beasley . . . but I won't push that too hard, because some of you will stroke out at the simple thought of such demands being placed on KSU B-ball.  





then we should also throw out every game against nortards.  i mean those are games we were favored to win.  the only games in which we should judge our team are games where the katz are underdogs.


i was going to post this earlier as well and then i said to myself "self, why even bother". actually kind of admire dax for taking the wrong side of an argument and trying to argue it. oh well.

i guess if you want to judge a coach or a team in games in which they are only underdogs that's fine with me.  that's a pretty high standard and i don't really mind it.

i'm waiting for someone to compile those numbers for both road and home games over the last 3 seasons.  would be cool to know.  TIA

i don't even think it's a high standard. just a weird one. i think he lost focus and got a little sidetracked.
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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2010, 10:45:05 PM »
so, after 2.5 seasons (conf only) it's perhaps fair to conclude that given the quality of his teams, martin has slightly underperformed expectations at home, and dramatically overperformed expectations on the road.  fascinating?  :dunno:
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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2010, 10:50:57 PM »
so, after 2.5 seasons (conf only) it's perhaps fair to conclude that given the quality of his teams, martin has slightly underperformed expectations at home, and dramatically overperformed expectations on the road.  fascinating?  :dunno:

What about last year? I wouldn't say the expectations were particularly high  :dunno:

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2010, 10:58:59 PM »
so, after 2.5 seasons (conf only) it's perhaps fair to conclude that given the quality of his teams, martin has slightly underperformed expectations at home, and dramatically overperformed expectations on the road.  fascinating?  :dunno:

What about last year? I wouldn't say the expectations were particularly high  :dunno:

i didn't mean pre-season expectations.  rather, expectations based on the team's final record. 
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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2010, 12:32:47 AM »


Hey, bro, we met Hartman's granddaughter the other day. I'll let others fill you in on how that went...

Like, 8 handfuls

BONNIE!!!   :driving:
« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 07:31:18 AM by Trim »

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2010, 07:28:18 AM »
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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2010, 08:57:16 AM »
Frank Martin tale of the tape...

Overall:
60-28 (.681)
42-7 home (.856)
11-13 road (.458)
7-8 neutral (.467)

Non-conference:
37-10 (.787)
28-1 home (.966)
2-3 road (.400)
7-6 neutral (.538)

Big 12:
23-18 (.561)
14-6 home (.700)
9-10 road (.474)
0-2 neutral (.000)

RPI:
13-18 vs 1-50 (.419)
8-7 vs 51-100 (.533)
18-3 vs 101-200 (.857)
18-0 vs 200+ (1.000)
3-0 vs non D1 (1.000)

Currently the 4th winning-est coach (winning %-age) in K-State history.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 09:34:59 AM by ksu_FAN »

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2010, 09:15:38 AM »


Hey, bro, we met Hartman's granddaughter the other day. I'll let others fill you in on how that went...

Like, 8 handfuls

BONNIE!!!   :driving:

She has pretty much established a goEMAW friendly pak place for future generations.  She's with EMAW.

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2010, 09:18:25 AM »


Hey, bro, we met Hartman's granddaughter the other day. I'll let others fill you in on how that went...

Like, 8 handfuls

BONNIE!!!   :driving:

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2010, 09:24:16 AM »
Why aren't we taking non-con games into consideration?   :dunno: 

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2010, 09:30:00 PM »
Frank Martin tale of the tape...

Overall:
61-28 (.6815
42-7 home (.856)
12-13 road (..480)
7-8 neutral (.467)

Non-conference:
37-10 (.787)
28-1 home (.966)
2-3 road (.400)
7-6 neutral (.538)

Big 12:
24-18 (.571)
14-6 home (.700)
10-10 road (.500)
0-2 neutral (.000)

RPI:
13-18 vs 1-50 (.419)
8-7 vs 51-100 (.533)
19-3 vs 101-200 (.863)
18-0 vs 200+ (1.000)
3-0 vs non D1 (1.000)

Currently the 4th winning-est coach (winning %-age) in K-State history.

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2011, 12:16:23 PM »
Have a bumpdate _FAN?

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2011, 12:34:39 PM »
Man I was brilliant in this thread. 

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2011, 12:36:41 PM »
Man I was brilliant in this thread. 
You were in your prime then, like Shaun Alexander 2001-2005.

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2011, 12:42:26 PM »
You should bitch about Jake some more... since that went so well last time.  :users:

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Re: 7 and 5 . . .
« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2011, 12:55:35 PM »
god, I loved '09-'10 Wildcat basketball.