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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #575 on: February 05, 2025, 07:04:32 PM »
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #576 on: February 05, 2025, 07:09:45 PM »
Does anyone have any idea what Elon's motivations are for dumping $300 million on the election and then totally reshaping our government? These are my best guesses.

1. He loves America
2. He's going to use all of the data that he's collecting to create the biggest, most powerful AI system
3. He wants to be the Mad King
4. Corporate tax breaks
5. This is a beta test and he's going to contract his services to other countries to make them more financially efficient
6. He's a double agent

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #577 on: February 05, 2025, 07:14:29 PM »
Does anyone have any idea what Elon's motivations are for dumping $300 million on the election and then totally reshaping our government? These are my best guesses.

1. He loves America
2. He's going to use all of the data that he's collecting to create the biggest, most powerful AI system
3. He wants to be the Mad King
4. Corporate tax breaks
5. This is a beta test and he's going to contract his services to other countries to make them more financially efficient
6. He's a double agent
I think number one is that he genuinely wants to land on Mars. I’m not saying that those other things aren’t deadly accurate as well, but I truly believe that his number one goal is putting a rough ridin' rocket on Mars and thereby do his part in scattering humanity throughout the solar system and through the stars with the goal of trying to ensure that humanity continues. I think he wants a statue of Elon Musk in the Alpha Centauri solar system on some rough ridin' planet and be universally regarded as the guy who saved humanity, all while an AI version of himself watches on and dutifully guides them.

I’m not certain humanity worthy of continuing “forever.”

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #578 on: February 05, 2025, 07:16:20 PM »
Does anyone have any idea what Elon's motivations are for dumping $300 million on the election and then totally reshaping our government? These are my best guesses.

1. He loves America
2. He's going to use all of the data that he's collecting to create the biggest, most powerful AI system
3. He wants to be the Mad King
4. Corporate tax breaks
5. This is a beta test and he's going to contract his services to other countries to make them more financially efficient
6. He's a double agent
I think number one is that he genuinely wants to land on Mars. I’m not saying that those other things aren’t deadly accurate as well, but I truly believe that his number one goal is putting a rough ridin' rocket on Mars and thereby do his part in scattering humanity throughout the solar system and through the stars with the goal of trying to ensure that humanity continues. I think he wants a statue of Elon Musk in the Alpha Centauri solar system on some rough ridin' planet and be universally regarded as the guy who saved humanity, all while an AI version of himself watches on and dutifully guides them.

I’m not certain humanity worthy of continuing “forever.”

How does all of this help him accomplish that goal? Cuts from other programs means more government funding for NASA/SpaceX?

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #579 on: February 05, 2025, 07:16:44 PM »
The data that he’s collecting from damage is rough ridin' minuscule compared to the data that AI needs. And the biggest AI models I’ve already used up everything written as training data.

Future training for AI will likely come from non-written sources, such as but not limited to dash cams, sensor data from automatic cars, sensor data from rockets, sensor data from satellites, data from autonomous robots….

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #580 on: February 05, 2025, 07:19:31 PM »
Does anyone have any idea what Elon's motivations are for dumping $300 million on the election and then totally reshaping our government? These are my best guesses.

1. He loves America
2. He's going to use all of the data that he's collecting to create the biggest, most powerful AI system
3. He wants to be the Mad King
4. Corporate tax breaks
5. This is a beta test and he's going to contract his services to other countries to make them more financially efficient
6. He's a double agent
I think number one is that he genuinely wants to land on Mars. I’m not saying that those other things aren’t deadly accurate as well, but I truly believe that his number one goal is putting a rough ridin' rocket on Mars and thereby do his part in scattering humanity throughout the solar system and through the stars with the goal of trying to ensure that humanity continues. I think he wants a statue of Elon Musk in the Alpha Centauri solar system on some rough ridin' planet and be universally regarded as the guy who saved humanity, all while an AI version of himself watches on and dutifully guides them.

I’m not certain humanity worthy of continuing “forever.”

How does all of this help him accomplish that goal? More government funding for NASA/SpaceX via cuts?
Yep. That’s what started all of this for him. He was fighting against massive amounts of regulation and a lot of entrenched laws and regulation designed to protect legacy defense contractors. Covid shook him up a whole bunch because it was throwing a wrench in his plans for the cash cows that he needed for the two passions in his life first being the inner planetary travel, and all that save humanity stuff in the second from what I can deduce is his own personal agenda with his own AI model and all of the future sources of training data for that. Then he had a kid come out as trans and seems like he just sort of lost his mind and got out of his lane. So then he emerges from Covid and this drama with a kid being trans and he still seems to be effective with his company, but we have this extra layer of horse crap to deal with now too.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #581 on: February 05, 2025, 07:21:07 PM »
I don’t think he is a genius at anything other than getting things to market and making things happen in a capitalist system.

And since he is not a genius, I don’t feel the need to automatically reject everything he does for fear that it is part of his master genius plan of evil .

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Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #582 on: February 05, 2025, 07:23:35 PM »
Lots of liberals seem to be very conflicted about Elon. Many tell me that he is not a genius, and really it’s almost all of them that I talk to tell me that Elon is not a genius.  Then there are quite a few that will even tell me that they don’t think he’s actually very smart.

When I say there are some things that I like that he does they basically tell me oh my gosh, you can’t let him do anything otherwise he’s gonna take over the world like Dr. evil or something because everything he does is part of his master evil genius plan.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #583 on: February 05, 2025, 07:26:01 PM »
Lots of liberals seem to be very conflicted about Elon. Many tell me that he is not a genius, and really it’s almost all of them that I talk to tell me that Elon is not a genius.  Then there are quite a few that will even tell me that they don’t think he’s actually very smart.

When I say there are some things that I like that he does they basically tell me oh my gosh, you can’t let him do anything otherwise he’s gonna take over the world like Dr. evil or something because everything he does is part of his master evil genius plan.

There is nothing genius about what he's doing. He would be thrown in prison for doing it if we had any other president.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #584 on: February 05, 2025, 07:30:10 PM »
Lots of liberals seem to be very conflicted about Elon. Many tell me that he is not a genius, and really it’s almost all of them that I talk to tell me that Elon is not a genius.  Then there are quite a few that will even tell me that they don’t think he’s actually very smart.

When I say there are some things that I like that he does they basically tell me oh my gosh, you can’t let him do anything otherwise he’s gonna take over the world like Dr. evil or something because everything he does is part of his master evil genius plan.

There is nothing genius about what he's doing. He would be thrown in prison for doing it if we had any other president.

I don’t think presidents can do that, but I am not a political scientist, nor am I a criminal lawyer.

This stuff will all work its way through the courts and we’ll see.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #585 on: February 05, 2025, 07:30:54 PM »
And since he is not a genius, I don’t feel the need to automatically reject everything he does for fear that it is part of his master genius plan of evil .

It alarms me that we would hand the keys to the government to someone with questionable motives.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #586 on: February 05, 2025, 07:32:10 PM »
He will be pardoned, you guys. Any criminal activity that comes up will mean nothing. Before don is done, he will blanket pardon those involved. Elon will be doing this bullshit for 4 yrs.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #587 on: February 05, 2025, 07:37:12 PM »
He will be pardoned, you guys. Any criminal activity that comes up will mean nothing. Before don is done, he will blanket pardon those involved. Elon will be doing this bullshit for 4 yrs.
I completely agree

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #588 on: February 05, 2025, 07:37:55 PM »
And since he is not a genius, I don’t feel the need to automatically reject everything he does for fear that it is part of his master genius plan of evil .

It alarms me that we would hand the keys to the government to someone with questionable motives.
I really am trying to be authentic here and not be snarky or sarcastic, but you really need to read more history, my man

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #589 on: February 05, 2025, 07:42:21 PM »
And since he is not a genius, I don’t feel the need to automatically reject everything he does for fear that it is part of his master genius plan of evil .

It alarms me that we would hand the keys to the government to someone with questionable motives.
I really am trying to be authentic here and not be snarky or sarcastic, but you really need to read more history, my man

From my POV, this is unprecedented. What would you compare it to? Authoritarian governments, sure. Has this ended well?

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #590 on: February 05, 2025, 07:45:21 PM »
And since he is not a genius, I don’t feel the need to automatically reject everything he does for fear that it is part of his master genius plan of evil .

It alarms me that we would hand the keys to the government to someone with questionable motives.
I really am trying to be authentic here and not be snarky or sarcastic, but you really need to read more history, my man

From my POV, this is unprecedented. What would you compare it to? Authoritarian governments, sure. Has this ended well?
Since it’s unprecedented, there’s nothing to compare it to

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #591 on: February 05, 2025, 07:47:27 PM »
People on the right think that Elon and Trump‘s actions are similar to the unwinding of McCarthyism and the red scare that the country had to do in order to get past the red scare stuff… their angle being that woke is like the red scare.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #592 on: February 05, 2025, 07:50:15 PM »
Our collective civil liberties at this moment are at the all-time high in the history of the United States of America.

Every single demographic has a better civil liberties situation right now than they have ever had in this country.

I don’t say that to suggest that we should take our foot off the gas in our effort to ensure civil liberties . I say that to gain some perspective about how close we are or how far we are from authoritarianism.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #593 on: February 05, 2025, 07:50:39 PM »
I honestly don't think the United States survives 4 years of this.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #594 on: February 05, 2025, 07:51:35 PM »
I honestly don't think the United States survives 4 years of this.
That’s what I said before Trump’s first term

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #595 on: February 05, 2025, 07:52:39 PM »
You should’ve seen me I did not watch any network news on television for the entire four years. I am not exaggerating.

The only news I would consume was to read AP news .

I was a rough ridin' mess

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #596 on: February 05, 2025, 07:53:29 PM »
All the restraints of 1.0 are gone, there is nothing but lapdogs and vultures left.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #597 on: February 05, 2025, 07:53:51 PM »
I was absolutely convinced we were headed right into the handmaid’s Tale. I had to stop watching that show after only a handful episodes cause it rough ridin' scared the crap out of me.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #598 on: February 05, 2025, 07:55:10 PM »
All the restraints of 1.0 are gone, there is nothing but lapdogs and vultures left.
There’s plenty still there. The entire CIA is still in place and so are the CIA’s legacy defense contractor allies.

Democrats are pretty close to having a majority in the house and if the country doesn’t respond well to do and Elon and all that stuff it’s likely that they could win the house back in two years .

And Trump is super old. Ask yourself how old was my grandpa when he died.?

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #599 on: February 05, 2025, 07:56:34 PM »
I honestly don't think the United States survives 4 years of this.

What does non survival look like
When the bullets are flying, that's when I'm at my best