Let's talk about Elon Musk

[Pete]

That’s an awfully personal attack.

Didn't mean it that way at all, friend. Did want to add my voice to those who've noticed that you've been a bit different on this stuff lately.

I’m glad to hear that because I like you. I have been very different about it. I’ve been thinking this way for an awfully long time and it frankly been scared to say anything. I didn’t want to disappoint people.

I don’t like Elon Musk as a person and I suspect you’re probably right about his white power stuff. My experience with White South Africans consistently led me to realize that the ones that I interacted with were all of that mindset.

I want to reiterate that I absolutely hate Trump.

I just want to reject all or nothing thinking. I’m spiritually as healthy as I’ve ever been. I still don’t drink. I still try and take care of myself. Lots of doctors visits all that good stuff.

I still root for whatever makes life the best for average working class people in America. I like to think in terms of What would’ve helped people like my parents and grandparents when they were alive. People who didn’t commit crimes pay their taxes their whole lives, help their neighbors and were nice folks. My wife is a retired social worker and college social work instructor. I have intimate knowledge of what that field is about and the types of adversity that at risk populations face. I want what’s good for all of them. I just fear that we’re gonna have to make awfully hard choices in this country over the next 20 years and that many eggs will be broken in order to make the omelette. I don’t think we have time to quibble over whether an idea or a proposal comes from a bad guy or not. if it works let’s use it.

[Pete]

Has any legal authority weighed in on the legality of Musk’s involvement, or any charges pressed, court dates set
, investigations opened?

Lots of lawyers a saying basically all of the Elon stuff is illegal.

In the case of USAID, it was established by Congress long ago. Which means that no president can unilaterally remove it.

Respectfully, I think we’re gonna find that there’s an awful lot of gray area.

[Stupid Fitz]

Lot of raging out as the money laundering operations(s) are being brought to light.

A con artist paradise . . .

Agreed. I can't wait until Doge looks in to the people that pumped billions in to completely useless meme coins of elected officials right before they were inaugurated and even after.

[Pete]

I was hoping that crypto would be completely outlawed unless it serves some essential purpose inside some other electronic exchange mechanism…. Some sort of token concept inside of a market based system, I don’t know. Crypto existing to merely be a means of speculation seems really, really bad.

I am at odds with almost all of Silicon Valley on this topic it seems.

[Stupid Fitz]

I was hoping that crypto would be completely outlawed unless it serves some essential purpose inside some other electronic exchange mechanism…. Some sort of token concept inside of a market based system, I don’t know. Crypto existing to merely be a means of speculation seems really, really bad.

I am at odds with almost all of Silicon Valley on this topic it seems.

I can remember when crypto was all "based on thin air" and worthless. Weird that the current people getting richer from who knows who is buying their useless coins is pro crypto now. I'm sure they all just "did their research" and there isn't anything sketchy going on at all.

[sonofdaxjones]

Lot of raging out as the money laundering operations(s) are being brought to light.

A con artist paradise . . .

Agreed. I can't wait until Doge looks in to the people that pumped billions in to completely useless meme coins of elected officials right before they were inaugurated and even after.

That has nothing to do with Federal spending and is absolute pinnacle deflection.

Stupid Fitz: Still Big Mad

[Trim]

The only thing that we know for sure is that no one on this rough ridin' blog knows Jack crap about what’s going on.

Oh no.

Nothing is confirmed.  So anyone saying it’s made up doesn’t have the first rough ridin' clue if it is or not.

[Pete]

The only thing that we know for sure is that no one on this rough ridin' blog knows Jack crap about what’s going on.

Oh no.

Nothing is confirmed.  So anyone saying it’s made up doesn’t have the first rough ridin' clue if it is or not.

I mean, he’s not wrong!

[michigancat]

That’s an awfully personal attack.

Didn't mean it that way at all, friend. Did want to add my voice to those who've noticed that you've been a bit different on this stuff lately.

I’m glad to hear that because I like you. I have been very different about it. I’ve been thinking this way for an awfully long time and it frankly been scared to say anything. I didn’t want to disappoint people.

I don’t like Elon Musk as a person and I suspect you’re probably right about his white power stuff. My experience with White South Africans consistently led me to realize that the ones that I interacted with were all of that mindset.

I want to reiterate that I absolutely hate Trump.

I just want to reject all or nothing thinking. I’m spiritually as healthy as I’ve ever been. I still don’t drink. I still try and take care of myself. Lots of doctors visits all that good stuff.

I still root for whatever makes life the best for average working class people in America. I like to think in terms of What would’ve helped people like my parents and grandparents when they were alive. People who didn’t commit crimes pay their taxes their whole lives, help their neighbors and were nice folks. My wife is a retired social worker and college social work instructor. I have intimate knowledge of what that field is about and the types of adversity that at risk populations face. I want what’s good for all of them. I just fear that we’re gonna have to make awfully hard choices in this country over the next 20 years and that many eggs will be broken in order to make the omelette. I don’t think we have time to quibble over whether an idea or a proposal comes from a bad guy or not. if it works let’s use it.

I think you're assuming I don't like what Musk is doing because he's a bad guy. I actually don't like most of what he's doing because I don't think it's good for the country or society in general. I would feel the same even if he wasn't a white supremacist.

[Pete]

That’s an awfully personal attack.

Didn't mean it that way at all, friend. Did want to add my voice to those who've noticed that you've been a bit different on this stuff lately.

I’m glad to hear that because I like you. I have been very different about it. I’ve been thinking this way for an awfully long time and it frankly been scared to say anything. I didn’t want to disappoint people.

I don’t like Elon Musk as a person and I suspect you’re probably right about his white power stuff. My experience with White South Africans consistently led me to realize that the ones that I interacted with were all of that mindset.

I want to reiterate that I absolutely hate Trump.

I just want to reject all or nothing thinking. I’m spiritually as healthy as I’ve ever been. I still don’t drink. I still try and take care of myself. Lots of doctors visits all that good stuff.

I still root for whatever makes life the best for average working class people in America. I like to think in terms of What would’ve helped people like my parents and grandparents when they were alive. People who didn’t commit crimes pay their taxes their whole lives, help their neighbors and were nice folks. My wife is a retired social worker and college social work instructor. I have intimate knowledge of what that field is about and the types of adversity that at risk populations face. I want what’s good for all of them. I just fear that we’re gonna have to make awfully hard choices in this country over the next 20 years and that many eggs will be broken in order to make the omelette. I don’t think we have time to quibble over whether an idea or a proposal comes from a bad guy or not. if it works let’s use it.

I think you're assuming I don't like what Musk is doing because he's a bad guy. I actually don't like most of what he's doing because I don't think it's good for the country or society in general. I would feel the same even if he wasn't a white supremacist.

That’s definitely not what I would have guessed or deduced. But I respect you, And if you say that’s the case, then I’ll take you at your word.

[Trim]

The only thing that we know for sure is that no one on this rough ridin' blog knows Jack crap about what’s going on.

Oh no.

Nothing is confirmed.  So anyone saying it’s made up doesn’t have the first rough ridin' clue if it is or not.

I mean, he’s not wrong!

MasterPETEces.

[mocat]

The only thing that we know for sure is that no one on this rough ridin' blog knows Jack crap about what’s going on.

Oh no.

Nothing is confirmed.  So anyone saying it’s made up doesn’t have the first rough ridin' clue if it is or not.

first place my brain went also. Pete are you doing a bit?

[Stupid Fitz]

Lot of raging out as the money laundering operations(s) are being brought to light.

A con artist paradise . . .

Agreed. I can't wait until Doge looks in to the people that pumped billions in to completely useless meme coins of elected officials right before they were inaugurated and even after.

That has nothing to do with Federal spending and is absolute pinnacle deflection.

Stupid Fitz: Still Big Mad

sorry friend, I thought you were talking about money laundering in general. I don't want any money laundering to be going on, especially within our own government. I guess focusing one type of potential money laundering and not the other is at least a start. 

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/DeepSouthProud/status/1886235933223125334

[sonofdaxjones]

Completely raged out that someone kicked over the rock . . .

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1886499743779709308

[mocat]

BOLD AND DARING PREDICTION: this presidency will reveal the limit of dax's stamina

[BIG APPLE CAT]

2/3: The 9/11 of 1/6’s

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BOLD AND DARING PREDICTION: this presidency will reveal the limit of dax's stamina

[sonofdaxjones]

Who wouldn't be fueled the eternal cauldron of perpetual #blueanon rage?

[michigancat]

That’s an awfully personal attack.

Didn't mean it that way at all, friend. Did want to add my voice to those who've noticed that you've been a bit different on this stuff lately.

I’m glad to hear that because I like you. I have been very different about it. I’ve been thinking this way for an awfully long time and it frankly been scared to say anything. I didn’t want to disappoint people.

I don’t like Elon Musk as a person and I suspect you’re probably right about his white power stuff. My experience with White South Africans consistently led me to realize that the ones that I interacted with were all of that mindset.

I want to reiterate that I absolutely hate Trump.

I just want to reject all or nothing thinking. I’m spiritually as healthy as I’ve ever been. I still don’t drink. I still try and take care of myself. Lots of doctors visits all that good stuff.

I still root for whatever makes life the best for average working class people in America. I like to think in terms of What would’ve helped people like my parents and grandparents when they were alive. People who didn’t commit crimes pay their taxes their whole lives, help their neighbors and were nice folks. My wife is a retired social worker and college social work instructor. I have intimate knowledge of what that field is about and the types of adversity that at risk populations face. I want what’s good for all of them. I just fear that we’re gonna have to make awfully hard choices in this country over the next 20 years and that many eggs will be broken in order to make the omelette. I don’t think we have time to quibble over whether an idea or a proposal comes from a bad guy or not. if it works let’s use it.

I think you're assuming I don't like what Musk is doing because he's a bad guy. I actually don't like most of what he's doing because I don't think it's good for the country or society in general. I would feel the same even if he wasn't a white supremacist.

That’s definitely not what I would have guessed or deduced. But I respect you, And if you say that’s the case, then I’ll take you at your word.

Take what Elon did with twitter, for example. Creating a more friendly environment for nazis and nazi sympathizers is bad, whether or not it is implemented by a nazi sympathizer. I also wouldn't like Warren Buffet going through the USAid payments and calling out crap he doesn't like (even if it may or may not benefitt his business or political interests). And Warren Buffet is a US citizen that I like and respect!

I will say, fair or not, the fact that he is a nazi sympathizer will make me question not just if his motivations are sincere but if the results are selling the public are also what will happen. He had a long track record of overpromising and underdelivering and being generally sneaky even before the nazi sympathizing, and I think the nazi sympathizing has earned him a little more scrutiny.

[star seed 7]

Yes, also community notes were probably a great addition to Twitter so good job Elon on that!!!!!

[michigancat]

I'd forgotten about the Twitter files but that style of "journalism" seemed bad. (Fwiw, an example of someone who I often agree with and think is a good person doing journalism I don't like it's when Jon Stewart had those gotcha interviews with like low-level Arkansas and Oklahoma start legislators.)

Anyway,

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/the-twitter-files-playbook-comes-for-the-us-government/

[star seed 7]

John Oliver falls into that trap too. Generally like him and think he's a good person, but the show at times is as half-truthy as dax.

[Stupid Fitz]

I'd forgotten about the Twitter files but that style of "journalism" seemed bad. (Fwiw, an example of someone who I often agree with and think is a good person doing journalism I don't like it's when Jon Stewart had those gotcha interviews with like low-level Arkansas and Oklahoma start legislators.)

Anyway,

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/the-twitter-files-playbook-comes-for-the-us-government/

This was always how it was going to go. They are going to find random crap like this, misinterpret it because they are idiots and/or because they know the people that will read the tweets about it are idiots and then get cheered because they shut it down. eff the people that were actually helped by whatever org they are shutting down. eff the people that worked for said org. None of it matters when you control the message and have a vast army of bootlickers that think they will gain something from any of this.

[bucket]

I'd forgotten about the Twitter files but that style of "journalism" seemed bad. (Fwiw, an example of someone who I often agree with and think is a good person doing journalism I don't like it's when Jon Stewart had those gotcha interviews with like low-level Arkansas and Oklahoma start legislators.)

Anyway,

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/the-twitter-files-playbook-comes-for-the-us-government/

This was always how it was going to go. They are going to find random crap like this, misinterpret it because they are idiots and/or because they know the people that will read the tweets about it are idiots and then get cheered because they shut it down. eff the people that were actually helped by whatever org they are shutting down. eff the people that worked for said org. None of it matters when you control the message and have a vast army of bootlickers that think they will gain something from any of this.

https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=42362.msg2313487#msg2313487