Let's talk about Elon Musk

[star seed 7]

eff if I know

[steve dave]

Did you guys hear about the Chinese dudes that were able to build their own chatgpt for like 6 million instead of the billions other models have taken? Is Elon washed and these dudes are the future?

What's this thing called

DeepSeek. everyone says it's rough ridin' incredible and far superior to anything else out there.

[star seed 7]

We need to H1B those motherfuckers immediately

[wetwillie]

Did you guys hear about the Chinese dudes that were able to build their own chatgpt for like 6 million instead of the billions other models have taken? Is Elon washed and these dudes are the future?

What's this thing called

DeepSeek. everyone says it's rough ridin' incredible and far superior to anything else out there.

They lulled us to sleep with tiktok and then deepseek'd our ass.

[yoga-like_abana]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

Probably a schnitzel sandwich.

I knew this was going to be the response and yet I still chuckled


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[mocat]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

Probably a schnitzel sandwich.

I knew this was going to be the response and yet I still chuckled


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It wasn't the best response I've ever seen, but it wasn't the wurst either

[BIG APPLE CAT]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

Probably a schnitzel sandwich.

I knew this was going to be the response and yet I still chuckled


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It wasn't the best response I've ever seen, but it wasn't the wurst either

It passed mustard

[CNS]

To touch on my initial posts in this thread, I think the best thing we can do for the AI, SpaceX, and Starlink type stuff would be to establish Manhattan Project focus, paying participants wildly well, to get there first and under extreme scrutiny.

[Pete]

OK, nobody likes a guy who leaves the table with a bunch of cash so let me just say that all of you guys have won the argument today I have completely lost. There’s nothing left to debate please all of you go about your lives with the full satisfaction of victory, I’m going to log off and grab a sandwich

Have a great day Pete, I still love you. Go chiefs.

I love you too, brother

[Pete]

OK, nobody likes a guy who leaves the table with a bunch of cash so let me just say that all of you guys have won the argument today I have completely lost. There’s nothing left to debate please all of you go about your lives with the full satisfaction of victory, I’m going to log off and grab a sandwich

Have a great day Pete, I still love you. Go chiefs.

Me too.  I don't want you to think any of this was personal.

I love you dearly

[Pete]

Guys, I really recommend forgoing being a woke partisan $!#*. Root for America. Accept that crap head oligarchs can be useful and have proven to be over and over throughout American history, and world history.

Life is much, much easier when you try to accept what you can’t control and focus on the silver linings and ways to make the most of it.

Pete, I respect you.  We've been posting here a long time.  I agree with you all the time.  I have missed most of this thread since my previous post and have only caught up to this comment, but I hope you don't think my concern is from being a woke partisan $!#*.  I may be that, but I can assure you that I appreciate the nuance of this overall sitch and that I do want many, if not all, the stuff you want from tech.  I think it reasonable to be concerned by the prospects of Elon's actions. 

I am fully in agreement that we need to be leading the world in AI.  Whoever doesn't will lose.  Period.  Same for quantum computing.  I think we should have the best of the best constantly challenging, reviewing, and scrutinizing all the tech you note.  We should be fully supporting it and we should be doing our best to tear it down, via debate, so that we know what comes out of it is good.  The stakes are really rough ridin' high here, and I don't like going full gas/no brake with people that are as politically pliable as Elon, Bezos, Zuck, etc.

I love and respect you too.

[Pete]

I did not have Pete turning into the board villain in 2025!


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Argh!

[Pete]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

Probably a schnitzel sandwich.

YOU SONS OF BITCHES!

[Pete]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

Probably a schnitzel sandwich.

I knew this was going to be the response and yet I still chuckled


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It wasn't the best response I've ever seen, but it wasn't the wurst either

This was appreciated by me a great deal

[LickNeckey]

Genuinely appreciate the robust discussion here.

Not sure it is the right lens to view the situation through but The Dollop episodes on Elon have drastically shaped my perception of the man and his actions.

Learning that he was a kid who was largely neglected by his father and bullied by his peers. While partially being raised and having huge admiration for a grandfather that moved from Canada to South Africa because he appreciated the politics of apartheid and advocate of technocracy.

This is a quote from Errol

"My ex-wife's parents came to South Africa from Canada because they sympathised with the Afrikaner government. In fact, they were very fanatical about apartheid," he said. Moreover, when the grandfather was young, he joined the 'Technocracy Incorporated' movement, which supported technocrats ruling countries. They used to support Hitler. Obviously I don't think they knew what the Nazis were doing".

[Pete]

Yeah, I appreciate the discussion too.  I am still very left leaning on many items, and probably most. I just insist on being able to pick and choose what I support and increasingly get upset at the idea of being expected to accept everything from a single political party. These parties are too big of tents for any person to support everything a given party stands for.

[CNS]

We definitely need ranked choice voting.

[LickNeckey]

Ranked choice voting for sure.

[chum1]

Bigger piece of crap sleazeball: Elon Musk or Thomas Edison?

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Bigger piece of crap sleazeball: Elon Musk or Thomas Edison?

I dunno…did some weather girl in Milwaukee get fired from her news station bc she was critical of Edison doing a Roman salute?

[nicname]

What are the biggest dangers to the species right now? You know, besides non-white immigrants and trans people.

Everyone on this board will be watched, monitored and evaluated by an AI at one point in time in the future. The biggest danger to humanity lies in who gets to train and align that AI.

Have you been following what Larry Elisson has been saying about AI and surveillance of the citizenry?  Have you also been following that Trump wants TikTok to be sold to Larry and Oracle?  This is off topic to what I was getting at with Elon, but it is on topic for the path that this thread has taken.  It's a great example of needing to slow our roll so that we don't end up with all the tech but end up being absolutely mumped by it.  In the end, if we are absolutely harmed by the tech, does it matter if it's a foreign govt or Larry?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Who's to say Larry isn't worse?  I honestly don't know and I am not qualified to know, but I also know that Donald rough ridin' Trump isn't qualified yet the above is actual news from this week.  That is conerning.

The whole thing has a very

Tech company: at long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel “Don’t Create The Torment Nexus”

Kind of feel.

Although I’m not sure anyone is debating that. I think even the most ardent supporters of AI recognize this will absolutely be used against humanity in general, I think the focus of the debate is will it be used for good, and if so will the good outweigh the bad

It’s a tale as old as time, or at least since the line of Cain.

[Stevesie60]

I'm assuming Pete knows Elon (or one of his companies) is going to search the whole internet with AI and see who was nice to him. And now Pete has a lot of pro-Elon posts so he can be one of the chosen ones.

For the record Elon, I think you're a rough ridin' Nazi doofus. But my wife, daughter, and kid on the way all love you and think you're brilliant.

[nicname]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

Probably a schnitzel sandwich.

I knew this was going to be the response and yet I still chuckled


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It wasn't the best response I've ever seen, but it wasn't the wurst either

This was appreciated by me a great deal

Spracne thread

[Pete]

Ranked choice voting for sure.

My full support!!!!!

[Pete]

What are the biggest dangers to the species right now? You know, besides non-white immigrants and trans people.

Everyone on this board will be watched, monitored and evaluated by an AI at one point in time in the future. The biggest danger to humanity lies in who gets to train and align that AI.

Have you been following what Larry Elisson has been saying about AI and surveillance of the citizenry?  Have you also been following that Trump wants TikTok to be sold to Larry and Oracle?  This is off topic to what I was getting at with Elon, but it is on topic for the path that this thread has taken.  It's a great example of needing to slow our roll so that we don't end up with all the tech but end up being absolutely mumped by it.  In the end, if we are absolutely harmed by the tech, does it matter if it's a foreign govt or Larry?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Who's to say Larry isn't worse?  I honestly don't know and I am not qualified to know, but I also know that Donald rough ridin' Trump isn't qualified yet the above is actual news from this week.  That is conerning.

The whole thing has a very

Tech company: at long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel “Don’t Create The Torment Nexus”

Kind of feel.

Although I’m not sure anyone is debating that. I think even the most ardent supporters of AI recognize this will absolutely be used against humanity in general, I think the focus of the debate is will it be used for good, and if so will the good outweigh the bad

It’s a tale as old as time, or at least since the line of Cain.

AI is going to suck balls and ass and taint. The key is to have one that is the least awful. I am firmly of the opinion that an American one is the least awful, and the best way for an American one to win is for good old fashioned American capitalism to drive those bastards to work their assess off to out fox the world and thereby enable America to “win.”