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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2024, 05:51:06 PM »
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Explain to me your thought here. There's one offensive coach who calls plays are the rest of them useless?

Why hire a seasoned former head coach for that role (which includes co-coordinator) if he isn't going to have any influence on the overall strategy? I'm assuming that type of coach comes at a premium?

Also you have to admit the quarterback hasn't looked great. (I know he's very young but it doesn't seem like he isn't fitting in with the offense or vice versa)
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Saying he doesn't have influence on the overall strategy is extreme, I certainly didn't say that.  I assume quarterback coaches are integral in assisting with the game plan and getting the QB ready during the week. He doesn't call plays.

As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2024, 05:53:46 PM »
Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Explain to me your thought here. There's one offensive coach who calls plays are the rest of them useless?

Matt Wells doesn't call plays, he's not much more than the QB coach.

I mean nothing about that sentence makes it seem like he was a good hire

Especially given how our young QB is performing

You know full well that's not how it works, at all. He had a bad game, that's going to happen. I'm much more concerned about the receivers, them and the o line were much worse than the quarterback.

I'm not entirely certain we watched the same game if you think the QB wasn't the worst performer last night.

We had 5 drops and 6 SIX! pre snap penalties.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2024, 05:57:05 PM »
As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?

people were definitely complaining about wells in game threads the first couple of games. I think Avery often looks tentative and indecisive. I think it's both play calling and "quarterback coaching" at play. (plus inexperience)

on the pre-snap penalties I honestly was surprised we didn't get more. seemed like one of the guards was always twitching. also QB has an influence on some of those pre-snap penalties - I think a couple were not everyone being set which I think is the inexperience at play

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2024, 06:03:22 PM »
Prob not Wells-related, but we seem to have something funky going on w our snap cadence. I can’t think of any other way to describe all the false starts.

Also, not sure if the rules have changed, but it seemed like our RG was moving pre-snap basically every play. Like, he would adjust his arm position like a half second before every snap.

Before today, we had two false start penalties the first three games.

I know what you mean about the flinching and early starts though. I notice it when watching other games too. There hasn't been any rules changes. I just think it's easier to see these on TV now with better technology. It can be tough for a line judge to catch all of that, when we have a 1080p overhead of all the linemen, that's a much better angle to see everything they're doing.
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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2024, 06:40:06 PM »
Prob not Wells-related, but we seem to have something funky going on w our snap cadence. I can’t think of any other way to describe all the false starts.

Also, not sure if the rules have changed, but it seemed like our RG was moving pre-snap basically every play. Like, he would adjust his arm position like a half second before every snap.
If it's loud or unable to hear the snap cadence... a guard will check the backfield for QB to signal he's ready.  The guard then extends a hand, gets set, and rhe center snaps the ball.  It's a visual timing vs listening for the snap count.


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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2024, 07:11:55 PM »
As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?

I personally said we missed Collin Klein during the Tulane game. I was told everything was fine. Not sure what to believe now.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2024, 07:20:21 PM »
As far as Avery goes, statistically he's bang average. He looked great last week. He looked average the first two weeks and bad last night. There wasn't boo said here about Matt Wells before last night, there's a pretty good reason for that, no?

I personally said we missed Collin Klein during the Tulane game. I was told everything was fine. Not sure what to believe now.

Agreed then and now. We miss him.
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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2024, 04:20:02 AM »
A lot of you guys bitched about Will Howard during his first two years and look at what he accomplished.  Avery will be fine; he needs time and experience.
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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2024, 07:59:32 AM »
I thought we were bitching about Matt Wells.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2024, 08:26:39 AM »
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2024, 08:30:50 AM »
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.

I'm still seeing Avery overthrown open receivers going downfield.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2024, 09:30:08 AM »
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.

I'm still seeing Avery overthrown open receivers going downfield.
Yeah some of those were close to 50/50 balls but a lot could easily have been completed with better timing, accuracy, or both. We desperately need to improve that aspect because the run game sets it up so beautifully.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2024, 12:59:49 PM »
Blame on Wells or Avery, or other players for that matter, is misplaced  After the second turnover, the team just lost composure.  The shock of giving up so many points in such a short period of time had the players on their heels.  This is something Kleiman has normally coached well, but I don't think I've seen such a tidal wave of change in a game in such a short period of time.  The concerns about the O-line, play-calling, and Avery are legit, but not something that can't be resolved.  Our Cats need to improve silent snap counts, and other aspects of playing in a loud and hostile environment. 

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2024, 01:30:23 PM »
Blame on Wells or Avery, or other players for that matter, is misplaced  After the second turnover, the team just lost composure.  The shock of giving up so many points in such a short period of time had the players on their heels.  This is something Kleiman has normally coached well, but I don't think I've seen such a tidal wave of change in a game in such a short period of time.  The concerns about the O-line, play-calling, and Avery are legit, but not something that can't be resolved.  Our Cats need to improve silent snap counts, and other aspects of playing in a loud and hostile environment.

It just totally derailed them. We weren't in total control of the game but it was going very well for us up to when they scored the FG. We looked competent, if not one of the better first half performances we've had to that point. The fumble/return I think scared us, the first INT made us completely incompetent. The INT after half sealed it, as did the punt return.

I think all of that then really played into the oline's issues, which then played into Avery's issues. I think they went from more or less playing to feeling like they had to play, and we're not experienced enough yet to overcome that.

Even as other's mentioned down 17-6 at half, while not great, was by no means insurmountable, especially if we scored a TD out of the half, and I think we almost just "expect" it to happen and when it doesn't it really bothers us. Hopefully all fixable but definitely worth looking at going forward.

I weirdly feel good about the OSU game, I think we're pissed enough and at home to come out and take care of business, but now when we go to Colorado I am going to be worried cause the crowd will be hostile and Deion is going to try and goad us to make mistakes.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2024, 01:51:59 PM »
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.


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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2024, 01:54:31 PM »
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2024, 01:56:21 PM »
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2024, 02:14:01 PM »
Blame on Wells or Avery, or other players for that matter, is misplaced  After the second turnover, the team just lost composure.  The shock of giving up so many points in such a short period of time had the players on their heels.  This is something Kleiman has normally coached well, but I don't think I've seen such a tidal wave of change in a game in such a short period of time.  The concerns about the O-line, play-calling, and Avery are legit, but not something that can't be resolved.  Our Cats need to improve silent snap counts, and other aspects of playing in a loud and hostile environment.

It just totally derailed them. We weren't in total control of the game but it was going very well for us up to when they scored the FG. We looked competent, if not one of the better first half performances we've had to that point. The fumble/return I think scared us, the first INT made us completely incompetent. The INT after half sealed it, as did the punt return.

I think all of that then really played into the oline's issues, which then played into Avery's issues. I think they went from more or less playing to feeling like they had to play, and we're not experienced enough yet to overcome that.

Even as other's mentioned down 17-6 at half, while not great, was by no means insurmountable, especially if we scored a TD out of the half, and I think we almost just "expect" it to happen and when it doesn't it really bothers us. Hopefully all fixable but definitely worth looking at going forward.

I weirdly feel good about the OSU game, I think we're pissed enough and at home to come out and take care of business, but now when we go to Colorado I am going to be worried cause the crowd will be hostile and Deion is going to try and goad us to make mistakes.


Even with all the other bizarro garbage, we probably win the game if we’re able to jump on the loose pig during that punt return play.
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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2024, 02:51:04 PM »
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
Same

Same but I still think we'll play for the Dr. P

I think we've still got a fairly high conference ceiling, we're going to get better. 

Long way from being sold on Riley as a play caller though.  Passing game is hard to tell if it is scheme/execution/personnel. Nothing looks/comes easy in our passing game.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2024, 08:13:16 AM »
i thought we were gonna have good wr's?  jayce brown, guy from iowa, new guy from penn state, guy from ole miss.  seems like we only throw to rb's or te's and jayce is the only one that has done much of anything.  think our WR coach sucks too if there's room for more hate to go around.

I'm still seeing Avery overthrown open receivers going downfield.
Yeah some of those were close to 50/50 balls but a lot could easily have been completed with better timing, accuracy, or both. We desperately need to improve that aspect because the run game sets it up so beautifully.

This is one of the biggest issues I'm seeing right now. Like you said, our run game is setting it up perfectly, but Avery is constantly overthrowing his receivers. Completing these passes will stop them from stacking the box and will really grab momentum during our offensive possessions. After this game, our opponents are going to dare us to throw it and we're going to need to execute.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2024, 10:00:50 AM »
Some of the time, I think WRs are quitting or slowing down early in their routes.  They shouldn't do that but also it's a result of few passes going to WRs to begin with.

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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2024, 10:19:47 AM »
Best suggestion I've seen is to roll him out of the pocket a lot more and simplify the options.  Doesn't really play to his NFL aspirations but gotta win some ballgames.
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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2024, 10:40:51 AM »
I don't like Matt Wells and I didn't like the hire when it happened.  I also don't like Riley being our OC.
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Same but I still think we'll play for the Dr. P

I think we've still got a fairly high conference ceiling, we're going to get better. 

Long way from being sold on Riley as a play caller though.  Passing game is hard to tell if it is scheme/execution/personnel. Nothing looks/comes easy in our passing game.
I think part of it is that, outside of the Jordan Love era, Matt Wells hasn't had very good offenses.  I've never been sold on him as some sort of passing game or qb guru.  And on the other side, we've got Conor Riley, which is kind of a black box as far as what he brings to the table (though the early returns aren't favorable!).

Part of it is starting a young QB who is in his second year of college, and first year under a new(ish?) system.

Part of it is an OL who is relatively inexperienced.

I think Avery will get better over the course of the season.  The game still looks like it's moving pretty fast for him.  He deep balls have STUNK!  I expect Avery to get a lot lot better over the next couple/few years.  I don't expect to get our OC situation changed by the start of next year, so for better or worse, I think the Avery/Riley/Wells group is going to be our offense for a while. 

Hopefully things work out and we can start finding a way to stretch the field more and give Edwards/DJamer/Avery a little more space in the run game.


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Re: Matt Wells
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2024, 09:39:05 PM »
https://wreckemred.com/posts/more-proof-of-why-matt-wells-was-one-of-the-worst-texas-tech-head-coaches-ever-01j88a6vzmhs

I was googling Matt Wells coaching background... this came up.


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