Author Topic: Bad Cats bball squads. (Read 4077 times)

nicname · « **Reply #25 on:** January 09, 2025, 04:01:29 PM »

Time to fire this bad boy back up! Cats coming in hot at kenpom No. 91 just 14 games into the season and most of the B12 slog yet to come!

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #26 on:** January 09, 2025, 04:04:32 PM »

CNS · « **Reply #27 on:** January 09, 2025, 04:12:17 PM »

This one is going to be rough.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #28 on:** January 09, 2025, 04:13:56 PM »

Quote from: nicname on February 03, 2024, 11:03:38 PM

Following today's loss at Oklahoma State (kenpom 123) our 2023-24 Cats bball squad has dropped to No. 76 in the latest basketball ratings by statistical guru Kenneth Pomeroy. If the season ended today that would put this year's team in between two Jim Wooldridge squads as the 7th worst ksu basketball team in the kenpom era.

How far will we fall ... or rise? Will we be helped by our conferences overall strength?

K-State cagers teams rated worst to first according to kenpom.com:

147 (2020-21) oscar
120 (2001-02) Wooly
90 (2019-20) oscar
83 (2004-05) Wooly
81 (2014-15) oscar
77 (2005-06) Wooly
71 (2004-05) Wooly
61 (2021-22) oscar
60 (2002-03) Wooly
57 (2006-07) Huggins
55 (2015-16) oscar
51 (2008-09) Frank
45 (2013-14) oscar
42 (2017-18) oscar
32 (2010-11) Frank
30 (2016-17) oscar
27 (2012-13) oscar
26 (2007-08) Frank
23 (2011-12) Frank
21 (2022-23) Tang
20 (2018-19) oscar
6 (2009-10) Frank

Obv. kp.c is not the only good measure for what makes a cat hoops team good or bad, but it does go back pretty far, so at least there is that!

I'm guessing he's added more data since you did this but
127 (1996-97)
70 (97-98)
56 (98-99)
161 (99-00)
115 (00-01)

nicname · « **Reply #29 on:** January 09, 2025, 04:19:50 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on January 09, 2025, 04:13:56 PM

I'm guessing he's added more data since you did this but
127 (1996-97)
70 (97-98)
56 (98-99)
161 (99-00)
115 (00-01)

Where did you get this? I don’t have a login anymore and the free site only has links going back to 01-02 for the rankings.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #30 on:** January 09, 2025, 05:01:42 PM »

Quote from: nicname on January 09, 2025, 04:19:50 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on January 09, 2025, 04:13:56 PM

I'm guessing he's added more data since you did this but
127 (1996-97)
70 (97-98)
56 (98-99)
161 (99-00)
115 (00-01)

Where did you get this? I don’t have a login anymore and the free site only has links going back to 01-02 for the rankings.

I have a login, for the next 8 days anyway, but I'm likely to renew

nicname · « **Reply #31 on:** January 09, 2025, 05:05:52 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on January 09, 2025, 05:01:42 PM

Quote from: nicname on January 09, 2025, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 09, 2025, 04:13:56 PM

I'm guessing he's added more data since you did this but
127 (1996-97)
70 (97-98)
56 (98-99)
161 (99-00)
115 (00-01)

Where did you get this? I don’t have a login anymore and the free site only has links going back to 01-02 for the rankings.

I have a login, for the next 8 days anyway, but I'm likely to renew

00-01 beating them No. 20 Iowa had a teenage nicname all geeked up for Wooly ball. Then the we added Nick Williams and got even better. I was pumped! Then he left us for Huggs :(.

nicname · « **Reply #32 on:** January 09, 2025, 05:06:18 PM »

Good to know Asbury did indeed have the worst squad.

Kid In the Hall · « **Reply #33 on:** January 09, 2025, 08:23:26 PM »

Quote from: nicname on January 09, 2025, 05:06:18 PM

Good to know Asbury did indeed have the worst squad.

That 99-00 team was just dreadful. The only thing that made that team watchable was seeing Tony Kitt play his ass off and give it everything he had every single game... only for us to still be terrible.

Cortez Groves was the "scorer" on that team - he averaged 16 ppg on 15 shots per game!

mocat · « **Reply #34 on:** January 09, 2025, 08:48:01 PM »

(4) top 25 finishes in the past 30 years? It might be time to admit that it's hard to recruit/coach basketball in Manhattan ks

mocat · « **Reply #35 on:** January 09, 2025, 08:50:36 PM »

That and we should rename bramlage after jacob pullen

nicname · « **Reply #36 on:** January 09, 2025, 09:14:12 PM »

Quote from: Kid In the Hall on January 09, 2025, 08:23:26 PM

Quote from: nicname on January 09, 2025, 05:06:18 PM
Good to know Asbury did indeed have the worst squad.

That 99-00 team was just dreadful. The only thing that made that team watchable was seeing Tony Kitt play his ass off and give it everything he had every single game... only for us to still be terrible.

Cortez Groves was the "scorer" on that team - he averaged 16 ppg on 15 shots per game!

I

with Big Tony a few times back in the day.

DaBigTrain · « **Reply #37 on:** January 11, 2025, 07:00:17 PM »

wetwillie · « **Reply #38 on:** January 11, 2025, 07:01:39 PM »

This team is so bad 'fried won't even start a game thread to talk to himself

BIG APPLE CAT · « **Reply #39 on:** January 11, 2025, 08:37:52 PM »

Really thought we had em when it was 9-5. Dangit

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #40 on:** January 11, 2025, 09:00:45 PM »

https://twitter.com/kellisrobinett/status/1878256125604475174?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g

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EMAWzifried · « **Reply #41 on:** January 11, 2025, 11:32:35 PM »

His team gets beat on the offensive board 16-2, and he's OK with the effort? We're mumped.

Super PurpleCat · « **Reply #42 on:** January 12, 2025, 02:37:03 AM »

Well as long as we don’t play any more juggernauts we should be OK

BIG APPLE CAT · « **Reply #43 on:** January 12, 2025, 08:24:35 AM »

I think what we do here is let the season play out, then in late feb we launch an internal investigation regarding a minor ncaa rules infraction and as punishment we ban ourselves from post-season play this year and vacate all wins and losses.

CNS · « **Reply #44 on:** January 12, 2025, 08:34:37 AM »

Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on January 12, 2025, 08:24:35 AM

I think what we do here is let the season play out, then in late feb we launch an internal investigation regarding a minor ncaa rules infraction and as punishment we ban ourselves from post-season play this year and vacate all wins and losses.

Idk, that would really be achor.

wetwillie · « **Reply #45 on:** January 12, 2025, 08:51:41 AM »

What is the 2025 version of finding a western Union payment in the trash can at Dillons?

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 12, 2025, 09:59:59 AM »

Forcing religion upon a team at a public school has to be some sort of violation, right?

BIG APPLE CAT · « **Reply #47 on:** January 12, 2025, 11:27:19 AM »

Quote from: CNS on January 12, 2025, 08:34:37 AM

Quote from: BIG APPLE CAT on January 12, 2025, 08:24:35 AM
I think what we do here is let the season play out, then in late feb we launch an internal investigation regarding a minor ncaa rules infraction and as punishment we ban ourselves from post-season play this year and vacate all wins and losses.

Idk, that would really be achor. achor? More like a labor of love

waks · « **Reply #48 on:** January 12, 2025, 11:47:11 AM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on January 12, 2025, 09:59:59 AM

Forcing religion upon a team at a public school has to be some sort of violation, right?

It got Deb Patterson fired, didn't it?

I_have_purplewood · « **Reply #49 on:** January 12, 2025, 11:52:43 AM »

Why didn't I bet against them? Talk about easy cash. I'll have to look how we're doing ATS.