There are shorts and pants that have the utility of cargo but without the floppy pocket and a narrower cut. Check out Kuhl pants or Eddie Bauer guide pro shorts. But if you guys say those are cargo, then I’m firmly pro cargo. When hiking or traveling or whatever, I want my stuff securely zipped up.
Mountain over beach obviously. And we’ve had this discussion in the travel or VQ THREAD. Beaches on a mountain lake are primo.