gpc poster powercatryan reporting that sutton will be gone

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So today I got some super-secret elite inside dirt. My barber said he cut the hair of a friend of one of the assistant coaches, and the real reason Sutton left wasn't his kids in SC. Sutton just wasn't working hard, wasn't willing to put in the requisite amount of work. So, Frank gave him the choice to leave. OK, I dunno what the other choice was. Anyway, I know some form of this story has been reported before, but this is just more evidence to back it up. Sutton, you blew it. 

Is your barber really rough ridin' big?  He might be BigCat.

I'm 6'2" so he doesn't seem "really rough ridin'" big to me, but he's pretty big I guess. He's sorta old, parted white hair, glasses, owns his shop. That him?

Nope.  Not big enough.

[TheMadCatter]

He's sorta old, parted white hair, glasses, owns his shop. That him?

It could be him or it could be every barber that has ever existed.

[Andy]

He's sorta old, parted white hair, glasses, owns his shop. That him?

It could be him or it could be every barber that has ever existed.

  

[Dugout DickStone]

His ability to be our primary defensive stopper except when Frank switches Pullen to his man because he's sucking will be missed, for sure.

Great summarization here folks

hey retards, it's better to have 2 better-than-average perimeter defenders than 1.  it's not like pullen becomes a better defender because kstate no longer has sutton.


also moronic how all the 'tards love to talk up the pullen on fredette switch up, but ignore pullen getting abused by white in the mississippi game.  big fracking surprise, the 6'0" better-than-average perimeter defender did better against smaller guards, and the 6'5" better-than-average defender did better against bigger players.

Two things.  First, Pullen had to take Sutton's man multiple times last season.  Second, when this happened, Sutton went to the bench (and was not on the perimeter playing defense).

The point here is that Sutton was not the amazing lock down defender that people thought he was.  Overall, he'll be missed, but not nearly as much as people seem to think.

I think if Sutton were our key to being a great team next year, Frank would have made it work.  He isn't, Frank found a passable sub and told Dom to get out.  Ireally believe if our coaches thought losing Dom was fatal to this team, they'd have kept him.

[chum1]

I think if Sutton were our key to being a great team next year, Frank would have made it work.  He isn't, Frank found a passable sub and told Dom to get out.  Ireally believe if our coaches thought losing Dom was fatal to this team, they'd have kept him.

The people who don't believe this are the same ones who take Frank at his word when he says he's primarily interested in "fit" with recruiting.  Somehow, they allow themselves to completely forget about all of the headcases he's recruited.  Frank isn't so stupid that he's going to screw himself out of an incredible opportunity next year.

[Dugout DickStone]

I think if Sutton were our key to being a great team next year, Frank would have made it work.  He isn't, Frank found a passable sub and told Dom to get out.  Ireally believe if our coaches thought losing Dom was fatal to this team, they'd have kept him.

The people who don't believe this are the same ones who take Frank at his word when he says he's primarily interested in "fit" with recruiting.  Somehow, they allow themselves to completely forget about all of the headcases he's recruited.  Frank isn't so stupid that he's going to screw himself out of an incredible opportunity next year.

I'm not a "in Frank we trust" guy but Frank had total control of this situation.  He could have easily played next season with Dom on the team.  He clearly thought losing Dom was addition by subtraction.

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I think if Sutton were our key to being a great team next year, Frank would have made it work.  He isn't, Frank found a passable sub and told Dom to get out.  Ireally believe if our coaches thought losing Dom was fatal to this team, they'd have kept him.

The people who don't believe this are the same ones who take Frank at his word when he says he's primarily interested in "fit" with recruiting.  Somehow, they allow themselves to completely forget about all of the headcases he's recruited.  Frank isn't so stupid that he's going to screw himself out of an incredible opportunity next year.

I'm not a "in Frank we trust" guy but Frank had total control of this situation.  He could have easily played next season with Dom on the team.  He clearly thought losing Dom was addition by subtraction.

You both are using a lot of words to say "FP, TC, etc.".

[Dr Rick Daris]

guess it was easier for the staff to send a senior with some very serviceable skills packing, then it was for them to figure out a way to get the best out of him, etc. seems kinda lazy.

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guess it was easier for the staff to send a senior with some very serviceable skills packing, then it was for them to figure out a way to get the best out of him, etc. seems kinda lazy.

How do you get the best out of cancer?  Besides cutting the cancerous ball out and putting it in a jar that says "Ball" on it to at least make a funny joke out of it that has the whole office rolling?

[chum1]

Don't care whether or not he's FP, TC, etc.  Either way, he's not all that good.

Don't care whether or not the staff is lazy.  Either way, he's not all that good.

[sys]

Don't care whether or not he's FP, TC, etc.  Either way, he's not all that good.

Don't care whether or not the staff is lazy.  Either way, he's not all that good.

regardless how revisionisty colored your sutton evaling glasses are, unless he was an actual cancer, not just a pussy, there is no possible way that williams in '10-'13 is better than sutton + williams in '11-'14.


no, make that irregardless.  and a bad cancer, not some pussy cancer that is easy to beat.

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no, make that irregardless.  and a bad cancer, not some pussy cancer that is easy to beat.

 

 

[chum1]

My view of Sutton has not changed.  I never realized how beloved he was until this happened.  (Or did everyone else's view of him suddenly change?)  

I agree that we are worse off now.  I disagree that it's a devastating loss.

[michigancat]

Don't care whether or not he's FP, TC, etc.  Either way, he's not all that good.

Don't care whether or not the staff is lazy.  Either way, he's not all that good.

regardless how revisionisty colored your sutton evaling glasses are, unless he was an actual cancer, not just a pussy, there is no possible way that williams in '10-'13 is better than sutton + williams in '11-'14.


no, make that irregardless.  and a bad cancer, not some pussy cancer that is easy to beat.

this is what gets me.  people are all like, "no big deal. we have a similar lower-ranked freshman coming in."  wtf?

[Cire]

Dis as ter.

[yosh]

My view of Sutton has not changed.  I never realized how beloved he was until this happened.  (Or did everyone else's view of him suddenly change?)  

I agree that we are worse off now.  I disagree that it's a devastating loss.

Aren't you the same guy who is pro 'tavious?

[chum1]

My view of Sutton has not changed.  I never realized how beloved he was until this happened.  (Or did everyone else's view of him suddenly change?) 

I agree that we are worse off now.  I disagree that it's a devastating loss.

Aren't you the same guy who is pro 'tavious?

Probably not.  Although, I'm not anti tave.  I mostly just roll when I see people wishfully thinking that tave isn't going to get much PT.

[sys]

I agree that we are worse off now.  I disagree that it's a devastating loss.

i basically agree.  with the caveat that we really can't say with much confidence, since none of the remaining and incoming non-pullen perimeter players are proven, with the semi-exception of mcgruder.



is voluntarily getting a little worse, for no logical reason that we can see, not worth bitching about?  odd worldview.

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I agree that we are worse off now.  I disagree that it's a devastating loss.

i basically agree.  with the caveat that we really can't say with much confidence, since none of the remaining and incoming non-pullen perimeter players are proven, with the semi-exception of mcgruder.



is voluntarily getting a little worse, for no logical reason that we can see, not worth bitching about?  odd worldview.

You should bitch at BigCat.  Maybe he's got the reason you're looking for. 

[sys]

You should bitch at BigCat.  Maybe he's got the reason you're looking for. 

didn't he promise to provide reasons after everything was finished?  lying bastard.

[chum1]

People were acting like we'd lost Pullen.  Plus, it's fun to roll at people making Sutton out to be some great player.  There's really nothing great about him.  He was a role player on a really good team.  While it's better to have Sutton plus others, I think the odds of simply replacing him with others by committee are pretty good.  For that not to happen, the others all have to suck.  And that's just not going to happen.

[wes mantooth]

Just remember how you felt ( )every time Dom threw up an outside shot last year.  Now, picture yourself not having to do that anymore ( ).

[sys]

Just remember how you felt ( )every time Dom threw up an outside shot last year.  Now, picture yourself not having to do that anymore ( ).

see, chum1?


for some reason you appear to think antisuttoning is more contrarian than prosuttoning.  but, you're wrong.

[chum1]

for some reason you appear to think antisuttoning is more contrarian than prosuttoning.  but, you're wrong.

I'm anti-prosuttoning.  Very different from antisuttoning. 

[WillieWatanabe]

People were acting like we'd lost Pullen.  Plus, it's fun to roll at people making Sutton out to be some great player.

I heard a VERY RIDICULOUS rumor last week, from somebody who talked to Sutton. Absolutely ridiculous rumor, so i didn't bother posting it. But it kinda has to do with the quoted phrase.