Pres Linton Runs off Coach Tang AND Nae'Quan Tomlin ThunderDunks Master Thread

[Stupid Fitz]

Starting to think our university president is a huge dumbass.


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[Pete]

Starting to think our university president is a huge dumbass.


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You say that now, but wait until our food science department starts winning awards.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Sometimes I think (some of) you guys would trade our myriad soil judging national championships for a football or basketball national championship and that’s just really pathetic imo

[EMAWzifried]

Sometimes I think (some of) you guys would trade our myriad soil judging national championships for a football or basketball national championship and that’s just really pathetic imo

Yeah, I'd sign on to that in a minute, and anyone who actually has that opinion is dumb even by tuck standards.

[SkinnyBenny]

Okay, which of you gE’ers hung this up over our tunnel the last minute of the game?? Lmao the players ran past it into the lockerroom.  Almost positive that’s Testy Westy verbiage but I didn’t see him and it would’ve been pretty easy to spot him given that there were 50 people in this arena.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

That right there is a SkiBe Special if ever I’ve seen one

[Tobias]

fantastic

[wetwillie]

Missed opportunity to use Dick Lint

[EMAWzifried]

Missed opportunity to use Dick Lint

And the use of the word "fire."

[Houstoncat93]

After all this shitshow I guess I have boiled my thoughts down to two conclusions.

1.  We don't have enough first-hand information to really know if he should have been dismissed.  If I had to guess I would say that he probably did not do anything that rises to that level or we would have heard rumors of what they are by now.

2. Linton does not have the leadership skills to lead an organization the size and complexity of Kansas State.  His PR instincts are horrible.  There was no reason to have comms on this issue be AD, then coach, then Pres on different days.  He should have go authored the released statement and then been enough of a leader to let Tang calm things down, if needed.  Even if is just a chicken-crap and wants the AD to take the heat he should be smart enough to not speak after Tang calmed the situation.  Sometimes the best thing a leader can do is just shut the eff-up.  He needs to go.

[EMAWzifried]

After all this shitshow I guess I have boiled my thoughts down to two conclusions.

1.  We don't have enough first-hand information to really know if he should have been dismissed.  If I had to guess I would say that he probably did not do anything that rises to that level or we would have heard rumors of what they are by now.

2. Linton does not have the leadership skills to lead an organization the size and complexity of Kansas State.  His PR instincts are horrible.  There was no reason to have comms on this issue be AD, then coach, then Pres on different days.  He should have go authored the released statement and then been enough of a leader to let Tang calm things down, if needed.  Even if is just a chicken-crap and wants the AD to take the heat he should be smart enough to not speak after Tang calmed the situation.  Sometimes the best thing a leader can do is just shut the eff-up.  He needs to go.

The actions we know Linton took in in the situation, doesn't lend confidence that he made the right choices thoughout the process.

[catastrophe]

100% agree. Whether he personally tried to get Tomlin dismissed or not is irrelevant at this point. His leadership in response to the fallout has been objectively awful. KSU would be burning right now if it weren’t for Tang.

[Pete]

We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin. 

[CNS]

When you are a pres, ceo, etc you delegate management down the hierarchy. In this case, the action lies on the shoulders of The Mustang. If gene is neglecting his duties so bad that you have to step over him to perform the action he is hired to do, then you need to get rid of gene.

If this isn’t that, then this was done due to preference.  If this was preference, this should be a fireable offense for a president. 

[wetwillie]

I'm glad someone got Gene's nickname right

[Trim]

KK, post all deez.

https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/k-state-fails-tomlin-teammates-coaches-and-fans-with-dismissal-decision/article_8eb67244-1420-5f3d-87a4-c7e5d2a8ddb1.html

https://themercury.com/opinion/from-the-publisher-the-tomlin-information-vacuum/article_c7e33565-26bb-574b-b01d-7c5eb3da48f1.html

https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/columns/from-the-publisher-richard-linton-is-not-an-idiot/article_4005320b-95c0-501a-b868-0ee407b0e21d.html

https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/tang-linton-emphasize-unity-in-responses-to-tomlins-dismissal/article_ad97ff58-2382-50b4-8523-c871119231b8.html

[chum1]

We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.

I think this is an incorrect view. He broke our rules, not theirs.

[catastrophe]

Counterpoint to #3–based purely on what Linton has said in public, he appears by all accounts to be an idiot.

[catastrophe]

We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin.

I think this is an incorrect view. He broke our rules, not theirs.

Who GAF, though? If it’s not a legal or academic issue, Tang should be the one making the call. And if we know anything here, it’s that Tang didn’t make this decision.

[chum1]

My thoughts:

1. Agreeing with Fitz never sits well with me.
2. I don't want to be like cringy K-State twitter.
3. HOT TAKE: We really don't NEED Tomlin that much.
4. If Tang says to be cool, I'll be cool.

[michigancat]

And if we know anything here, it’s that Tang didn’t make this decision.

Do we KNOW that?

[catastrophe]

And if we know anything here, it’s that Tang didn’t make this decision.

Do we KNOW that?

Tang acknowledging making the call would by far be the easiest way to diffuse the situation. Unless you believe Tang, GT, AND Lipton are all idiots, then yeah it’s safe to assume Tang didn’t make the call.

[Trim]

We will know all we need to know if other schools want Tomlin. 

The squawks wanted and got that guy who’d assaulted a girl at texas, and then he assaulted and raped a girl at ku.

[WillieWatanabe]

right. really doesn't mean dick that other schools want him. Still a KITN we will face him this season though.

[Tobias]

i won't even be mad if naeqwan dunks on us 10x at afh/bramlage, might be fun