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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #750 on: January 06, 2023, 01:13:56 AM »
dems wouldn't negotiate with republicans if the situation were reversed either.  it's a ridiculous thing to expect.

You're a registered dem, right? Honest question. You would. There seems to be a crap load of libs, including the president, who still hold on to the fairytale of bipartisanship. Frankly the democrats fetish with singing kumbaya with today's republican party is why I left. There are plenty of democrats like Spanberger who would love nothing more than to run ads about working with the Rs to get the government working.

i'm currently registered as a dem, but it's not something that means anything to me.  i'll probably change my registration to republican before the 2024 primary so that i can vote in the 'pub presidential primary.


when i say that it's ridiculous, i'm saying that it's an unrealistic expectation, not that it's an undesirable expectation.

I think there are republican reps who could make a deal with the enough dems to get this done, I'm certain this person isn't McCarthy. I think the only thing stopping someone from making a serious challenge is that if they try it and fails, they won't get a single committee assignment and fall victim to all the other petty crap they do to punish behaviors they don't find desirable like moving parking spaces, offices and all that other bullshit.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #751 on: January 06, 2023, 07:40:01 AM »
Would be great if the Dems showed some leadership and publicly proposed a REASONABLE solution where they were granted some concessions in return for helping to get a Republican secured as speaker.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #752 on: January 06, 2023, 07:42:26 AM »
This is all very new stuff for the GOP.

Dems have a history of negotiating within their party in a way that the GOP does not.  The GOP has typically run much, much more efficiently than the Dems due to their inclination to have an authoritarian approach (vote as you are told, and shut up).  Dems squander vast amounts of energy trying to make sure everyone is heard and solutions are arbitrated. 


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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #755 on: January 06, 2023, 08:04:13 AM »
This is all very new stuff for the GOP.

Dems have a history of negotiating within their party in a way that the GOP does not.  The GOP has typically run much, much more efficiently than the Dems due to their inclination to have an authoritarian approach (vote as you are told, and shut up).  Dems squander vast amounts of energy trying to make sure everyone is heard and solutions are arbitrated.

IMO, this has to do with coalitions. The GOP is better at aligning the large majority of their members pretty tightly. The Dems seem to be anyone who doesn’t fit the GOP alignment. That is a big difference, imo.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #757 on: January 06, 2023, 10:18:07 AM »
yeah he might have been talking to his own hog and sack there

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #758 on: January 06, 2023, 10:20:23 AM »
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #760 on: January 06, 2023, 10:48:20 AM »
does this count as funny?

grading on a curve, i'd say yes

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #762 on: January 06, 2023, 11:41:50 AM »
Not funny

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #763 on: January 06, 2023, 01:26:03 PM »

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #764 on: January 06, 2023, 01:27:56 PM »
Anyone else concerned about the long term implications of all the deals McCarthy to get this done? The next two years are going to be a total crap show, even more than normal.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #765 on: January 06, 2023, 01:28:48 PM »
I’d switch my vote to McCarthy immediately if I’m a Dem and see that.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #766 on: January 06, 2023, 01:30:01 PM »
I’d switch my vote to McCarthy immediately if I’m a Dem and see that.

You think that chomo would actually keep his word?
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #767 on: January 06, 2023, 01:30:21 PM »
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #768 on: January 06, 2023, 01:39:01 PM »
getting pretty close.

https://twitter.com/MattGlassman312/status/1611444388630040609

He's not going to be able to adhere to all of the deals

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #769 on: January 06, 2023, 01:57:58 PM »
Looks like McCarthy has a path to be the weakest speaker ever.
Still gets the physical office and gavel I suppose

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #770 on: January 06, 2023, 02:11:59 PM »
They need to put Reek on his door name plate.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #771 on: January 06, 2023, 02:29:30 PM »
They need to put Reek on his door name plate.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #772 on: January 06, 2023, 02:37:34 PM »
getting pretty close.

https://twitter.com/MattGlassman312/status/1611444388630040609

He's not going to be able to adhere to all of the deals

Didn’t they force him to change the rules to allow them to boot him out with a 1 person threshold? 
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #773 on: January 06, 2023, 02:48:55 PM »
getting pretty close.

https://twitter.com/MattGlassman312/status/1611444388630040609

He's not going to be able to adhere to all of the deals

Didn’t they force him to change the rules to allow them to boot him out with a 1 person threshold?
Force a vote with one person. 

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #774 on: January 06, 2023, 03:00:35 PM »
He is going to hate this gig.  Imagine Boebert or MTG screaming about space lasers and forcing you to discuss the teletubbies everyday