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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #725 on: January 05, 2023, 03:32:02 PM »


I don't see how this is hurting MAGAs at all. People keep saying it is or will, but I don't see it

they could end up with someone who will shut them out of committees and doesn't believe that trump won

No Republican who plans on being politically relevant would punish them.  They have all of the power in the Republican party.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #726 on: January 05, 2023, 03:41:45 PM »
Yeah, like right now, what incentive can you give to 20 people? Or even like the 17 you need. I can see if this was 3-5 people, but this is a lot
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #727 on: January 05, 2023, 03:43:58 PM »
I think it has more to do with them disliking McCarthy personally than it does with concessions. The relatively normal GOP members should spend the weekend figuring out someone else to nominate, and then try again.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #728 on: January 05, 2023, 03:49:10 PM »
I don't see how this is hurting MAGAs at all. People keep saying it is or will, but I don't see it

people say a lot of stupid things and high on that list is the idea that a political caucus that doesn't immediately agree on everything is embarrassing.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #730 on: January 05, 2023, 05:39:46 PM »
credit to my senate republicans for not being complete rough ridin' idiots.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #731 on: January 05, 2023, 06:26:57 PM »
Going to need a 12th vote. Seeing the definitely of insanity going on, lets keep voting the same, in sure it'll work this time
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #732 on: January 05, 2023, 06:46:01 PM »
What is even happening

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #733 on: January 05, 2023, 07:00:19 PM »
healthy debate

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #735 on: January 05, 2023, 08:16:08 PM »
Probably more fruitful to negotiate with the dems than the 20 Republican hold outs
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #736 on: January 05, 2023, 08:55:21 PM »
I think this is accurate. Pubs just don't negotiate with dems on principle these days.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #737 on: January 05, 2023, 08:57:41 PM »
dems wouldn't negotiate with republicans if the situation were reversed either.  it's a ridiculous thing to expect.
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #738 on: January 05, 2023, 08:59:27 PM »
What would it take for enough dems to vote for KM? I’m kind of hoping they get desperate enough to try it.
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #739 on: January 05, 2023, 09:06:01 PM »
dems wouldn't negotiate with republicans if the situation were reversed either.  it's a ridiculous thing to expect.

Maybe. The two parties operate differently. But it seems like an extremely reasonable thing to expect either to do. Not ridiculous.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #740 on: January 05, 2023, 09:12:21 PM »
What would it take for enough dems to vote for KM? I’m kind of hoping they get desperate enough to try it.

enough that it would cause a lot more republicans than the current 20 to defect from mccarthy.
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #741 on: January 05, 2023, 09:14:29 PM »
it seems like an extremely reasonable thing to expect either to do. Not ridiculous.

on day thirty of not being able to elect a speaker amongst themselves it might not be ridiculous.  on day three it's ridiculous.
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2022 midterm elections
« Reply #742 on: January 05, 2023, 09:17:19 PM »
it seems like an extremely reasonable thing to expect either to do. Not ridiculous.

on day thirty of not being able to elect a speaker amongst themselves it might not be ridiculous.  on day three it's ridiculous.
They’ve had more than 30 days to figure this out.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #743 on: January 05, 2023, 09:41:20 PM »
dems wouldn't negotiate with republicans if the situation were reversed either.  it's a ridiculous thing to expect.

Maybe. The two parties operate differently. But it seems like an extremely reasonable thing to expect either to do. Not ridiculous.

It is 1000% ridiculous, the pubs have offered no quarter for 30+ years in this is the pubs own effing fault, not the dems on any of this. The pubs simply have to find a person to get 218 of their own people to do, and they aren't. Dems can't help anything and if anything they have provided a guy with a plurality everytime. If pubs wanted to end it they could just offer 6 people for Jeffries.

End of the day it's the pubs problem and they shouldn't expect the Dems to fix it for them
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #744 on: January 05, 2023, 09:50:43 PM »
They’ve had more than 30 days to figure this out.

they've tried a total of one candidates.
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #745 on: January 05, 2023, 11:19:08 PM »
They’ve had more than 30 days to figure this out.

they've tried a total of one candidates.
Which less than 10% of their constituents don't want, even with major concessions. At some point the problem is the toddlers stomping their feet

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #746 on: January 05, 2023, 11:22:32 PM »
They've only had 11 votes. The need to have at least 100 votes before trying something different.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #747 on: January 06, 2023, 12:59:46 AM »
dems wouldn't negotiate with republicans if the situation were reversed either.  it's a ridiculous thing to expect.

You're a registered dem, right? Honest question. You would. There seems to be a crap load of libs, including the president, who still hold on to the fairytale of bipartisanship. Frankly the democrats fetish with singing kumbaya with today's republican party is why I left. There are plenty of democrats like Spanberger who would love nothing more than to run ads about working with the Rs to get the government working.

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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #748 on: January 06, 2023, 01:08:47 AM »
dems wouldn't negotiate with republicans if the situation were reversed either.  it's a ridiculous thing to expect.

You're a registered dem, right? Honest question. You would. There seems to be a crap load of libs, including the president, who still hold on to the fairytale of bipartisanship. Frankly the democrats fetish with singing kumbaya with today's republican party is why I left. There are plenty of democrats like Spanberger who would love nothing more than to run ads about working with the Rs to get the government working.

i'm currently registered as a dem, but it's not something that means anything to me.  i'll probably change my registration to republican before the 2024 primary so that i can vote in the 'pub presidential primary.


when i say that it's ridiculous, i'm saying that it's an unrealistic expectation, not that it's an undesirable expectation.
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Re: 2022 midterm elections
« Reply #749 on: January 06, 2023, 01:09:08 AM »
What would it take for enough dems to vote for KM? I’m kind of hoping they get desperate enough to try it.

For him? Nothing. No one likes or trusts that dude. No democrat is going to back a dude who was the leader of the party who doesn't the last 2 years demonizing them, in some cases personally, and showing no interest in working with them at all. He is the symbol, not any of the dipshit 20, in the house of the modern republican party. I know the democratic party leadership are largely comprised of dipshits, but I'd hope they aren't dumb enough to trust Kevin McCarthy.