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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3500 on: October 23, 2024, 01:52:16 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.



did trump do anything to disrupt the system of empire and perpetual war for profit during his previous tenure as president?
Trump prioritized that below massive tax breaks for the wealthy, apparently.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3501 on: October 23, 2024, 01:57:12 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3502 on: October 23, 2024, 02:04:28 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

The worst people in the world being for Harris/Walz/The Machine doesn’t require me to.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3503 on: October 23, 2024, 02:16:29 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

The worst people in the world being for Harris/Walz/The Machine doesn’t require me to.

https://youtu.be/RssazZnrsYk?si=Nr7aVWle307lkI95

The Cheneys endorsing Harris is a pretty poor rationale for wanting to vote for Trump. In my opinion.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3504 on: October 23, 2024, 02:21:25 PM »
. . . but it affirms Dems as the party of perpetual and the imperial presidency. 

All this talk about Trump and fascism is projection at this point


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3505 on: October 23, 2024, 02:26:42 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

The worst people in the world being for Harris/Walz/The Machine doesn’t require me to.

https://youtu.be/RssazZnrsYk?si=Nr7aVWle307lkI95

The Cheneys endorsing Harris is a pretty poor rationale for wanting to vote for Trump. In my opinion.

It’s a pretty damn good reason not to vote for Harris.
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3506 on: October 23, 2024, 02:36:19 PM »
I fully disagree nicname.

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« Reply #3507 on: October 23, 2024, 02:40:31 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

The worst people in the world being for Harris/Walz/The Machine doesn’t require me to.

https://youtu.be/RssazZnrsYk?si=Nr7aVWle307lkI95

The Cheneys endorsing Harris is a pretty poor rationale for wanting to vote for Trump. In my opinion.

It’s a pretty damn good reason not to vote for Harris.

any candidate you vote for in a presidential election will have some awful people supporting them

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3508 on: October 23, 2024, 02:44:35 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

The worst people in the world being for Harris/Walz/The Machine doesn’t require me to.

https://youtu.be/RssazZnrsYk?si=Nr7aVWle307lkI95

The Cheneys endorsing Harris is a pretty poor rationale for wanting to vote for Trump. In my opinion.

It’s a pretty damn good reason not to vote for Harris.

any candidate you vote for in a presidential election will have some awful people supporting them

Hell, Jill Stein's over here with David Duke's endorsement like "thanks, I guess?"

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3509 on: October 23, 2024, 02:50:39 PM »
I fully disagree nicname.

That’s fine. Nearly everyone on this bbs disagrees with me on most things.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3510 on: October 23, 2024, 02:57:08 PM »
are there things drawing you towards Trump?

or are you just being pushed away by the Cheney's?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3511 on: October 23, 2024, 03:05:03 PM »
Insane Clown Posse has endorsed Harris, dunno if that balances out Cheney

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3512 on: October 23, 2024, 03:15:54 PM »
I’m not voting for Trump.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3513 on: October 23, 2024, 03:17:09 PM »
Insane Clown Posse has endorsed Harris, dunno if that balances out Cheney

As is Eminem, really she's got a lot of Detroit clout rn, though having the juggalo's is pretty big
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3514 on: October 23, 2024, 04:09:28 PM »
In case Brian Kilmeade is reading the thread...

https://x.com/ChrisCJackson/status/1849146757910766022

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3515 on: October 23, 2024, 04:11:51 PM »
The Normie Republican Motto in one tweet:

https://x.com/DougJBalloon/status/1849196599781552229

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« Reply #3516 on: October 23, 2024, 04:20:13 PM »
Imagine running around for 4 years claiming Trump was going to start WWIII - and then watching the Harris-Biden administration bring us closer to WWIII than other time save possibly the Cuban Missile (when the US was putting the world on the brink of annihilation due to Soviet expansionism - and soon would put large swaths of Southeast Asia into war because of Soviet expansionism)

One would think that people saying that would humble themselves and back off from being complete clowns and total dumbasses.

But apparently not

Then add in the flip side of people like that turd Susan Rice calling him a surrender monkey.

You thus have the recipe for a political movement made up insane whackjobs . . . aka Democrats




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You think the Soviets are more to blame for the Vietnam, Cambodian, and Laotian wars than the French, Japanese, UK, and US?

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« Reply #3517 on: October 23, 2024, 04:21:46 PM »
Purposely cross posted in light of disclosures in Woodward's book that Dem megadonors lining up to buy protection from #blueanon lawfare in 2023 noted Joe's substantial mental decline (and when he was flying on whatever Dr. Feelgood gave him between events). 


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« Reply #3518 on: October 23, 2024, 04:23:33 PM »
Imagine running around for 4 years claiming Trump was going to start WWIII - and then watching the Harris-Biden administration bring us closer to WWIII than other time save possibly the Cuban Missile (when the US was putting the world on the brink of annihilation due to Soviet expansionism - and soon would put large swaths of Southeast Asia into war because of Soviet expansionism)

One would think that people saying that would humble themselves and back off from being complete clowns and total dumbasses.

But apparently not

Then add in the flip side of people like that turd Susan Rice calling him a surrender monkey.

You thus have the recipe for a political movement made up insane whackjobs . . . aka Democrats




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You think the Soviets are more to blame for the Vietnam, Cambodian, and Laotian wars than the French, Japanese, UK, and US?

No . . . the point is to hammer home how the US reacted/reacts to expansionist ambitions by Geo-Strategic advisories.

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« Reply #3519 on: October 23, 2024, 04:30:22 PM »
I think describing the US as "reacting" in Vietnam is to get the story completely backwards.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3520 on: October 23, 2024, 05:03:11 PM »
I hate that presidential elections are in the Fall. The best time of the year marred by this dumb thing. Elections should be in February or August or some other stupid month everyone hates.

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« Reply #3521 on: October 23, 2024, 05:30:26 PM »
It's crazy how his own Chief of Staff just called him a fascist and it doesn't even move the needle an inch
It really boggles the mind.

But I guess that’s how dictatorships start (bloodless ones anyway). Not shocking in the context of human history but I certainly did not expect we’d be toying with it like we are now.

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« Reply #3522 on: October 23, 2024, 05:35:07 PM »
I think describing the US as "reacting" in Vietnam is to get the story completely backwards.

Choosing to call all in on Vietnam is not a reaction to events on the ground and perceptions of what would occur?  The domino theory wasn't a reaction?

Choosing to install multiple puppets as S. Vietnamese leaders was an organic decision?

Okay . . .


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« Reply #3523 on: October 23, 2024, 05:36:58 PM »
It's crazy how his own Chief of Staff just called him a fascist and it doesn't even move the needle an inch
It really boggles the mind.

But I guess that’s how dictatorships start (bloodless ones anyway). Not shocking in the context of human history but I certainly did not expect we’d be toying with it like we are now.

Meanwhile cat openly supports a political movement that's actively calling for censorship and dismantling companies who have leaders that #blueanon doesn't like.

I suppose it's pretty great for Kamala to turn to her literal BFF (the Epsteinite Jobs even posed with KH in the official family photo of Harris' swearing in as Senator) whenever she needs to get another insane conspiracy theory out there about Trump.  At least this one doesn't carry the stench of being orchestrated by Russian Intelligence, I suppose.



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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #3524 on: October 23, 2024, 06:16:36 PM »
Honestly, all the rest of the stuff is tertiary. The endorsements of Dick and Liz Cheney, and others of their ilk should tell you all you need to know.

Trump is the candidate most dangerous the system of empire and perpetual war for profit the US has been involved in for decades. That’s it. That’s all that really matters.

All the rest of the stuff is tertiary, at least to them; the Bushes, Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Bidens and others at the top of the military industrial compex pyramid.
How do you explain the democratic socialists also being against Trump? The Bernies, etc.  they don’t seem to benefit from the military industrial complex and appear to similarly oppose it.

The worst people in the world being for Harris/Walz/The Machine doesn’t require me to.

https://youtu.be/RssazZnrsYk?si=Nr7aVWle307lkI95

The Cheneys endorsing Harris is a pretty poor rationale for wanting to vote for Trump. In my opinion.

It’s a pretty damn good reason not to vote for Harris.

any candidate you vote for in a presidential election will have some awful people supporting them

Hell, Jill Stein's over here with David Duke's endorsement like "thanks, I guess?"

eff Jill stein but she (politically speaking) told him to eff off, something trump refused to do.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite