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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #250 on: February 01, 2022, 08:14:19 PM »

4.  apropos of nothing really, I love spotify and think it's (along with its predecessors/peers) one of the best things that's ever happened to music.  completely revolutionary.  the entire world's catalogue of music available at your fingertips.  what a world.

They are crooks who rip off artists as bad, if not worse, than record companies.
I disagree.

They pay their artists significantly less than all the streaming services for no other reason other than they can. I think maximizing corporate profits at the expense of artists is the pinnacle of greed.
they pay their artists less because that's the deal they've negotiated with the artists/label and have been able to "sustain" (while, not for nothing, never having turned a profit).  it sucks that a lot of artists aren't really in control of their music, but if someone (i.e. the label) is making a "bad" deal with spotify on the artist's behalf, then i'd place the primary blame on the label who made the bad deal -- not on spotify who apparently made an awesome deal.

theoretically, i'm not even sure what a fair value for a stream is.  if spotify matched Amazon's .004/stream, is that fair? Apple's 0.007?  fwiw, youtube has a music streaming service that pays out .002.  Pandora's at .0013.

The thing that hasn't been said is the artists/labels have deals with most of these formats and therefore collect from them the contracted streaming fees.
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #251 on: February 01, 2022, 10:23:47 PM »
I remember Neil playing the closing ceremonies and thinking "goddam that's great" and was worried maybe I misremembered it being great so fired it up again and definitely got goosebumps:



dude's a damn legend

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #252 on: February 02, 2022, 06:15:10 AM »
I haven’t been following this thread and admittedly just popped into the last page, but Dlew are you really arguing that Spotify and other streaming services are anything other than giant crooks that eff over artists? Holy crap, man. I love you but this is a terrible take. Who you gonna defend next? Ticketmaster?  The health care system? For-Profit prisons? Those are extreme examples but all four are terribly unscrupulpus, greedy enterprises and there’s really no way to make a case that they aren’t. How much did Spotify’s CEO make last year?
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #253 on: February 02, 2022, 07:41:42 AM »
I’m arguing Spotify is great and my favorite thing.  Every song is available.

Artists have been getting “mumped over” since forever. I don’t think that’s new with Spotify.  And I don’t think Spotify is the party really responsible for the rough ridin' over.  Spotify is just offering royalty deals to the rights holders in exchange for hosting the music on the platform.  I have a hard time finding a reason why Spotify and not [whoever owns the rights] is the bad actor - assuming there’s a bad actor here.

Unless I’m missing something in how this all works that makes the transactions much shadier than I think (eg some price fixing anti trust crap), I just have a hard time morally fingerwagging Spotify for acquiring the music for as cheaply as they can - as a for profit company, that’s kind of what they’re supposed to do.

 Plus I’m biased because I legitimately love their product.


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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #254 on: February 02, 2022, 08:16:11 AM »

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #255 on: February 02, 2022, 08:58:21 AM »
Eve6 should have considered how they would feed their kids before they decided to be a one hit wonder.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #256 on: February 02, 2022, 09:08:46 AM »
Eve6 should re-record their one hit and then they will have control over it and can start their own highly successful Eve6 one song steaming service and get paid exactly what they believe they are worth
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #257 on: February 02, 2022, 09:17:10 AM »
come on everyone knows this song



and a lot of folks know this one



and this one



and MAYBE this one



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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #258 on: February 02, 2022, 09:26:04 AM »
Eve 6 is a better twitter follow than band

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #259 on: February 02, 2022, 09:29:13 AM »
Eve 6 is a better twitter follow than band

Damn, you just put his tender heart in a blender.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #261 on: February 02, 2022, 09:29:52 AM »
Love this song too



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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2022, 09:30:54 AM »

Really great album.  Open Road Song is a poetic masterpiece, with insightful and helpful lyrics like "This is The Open Road Song."


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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #263 on: February 02, 2022, 09:34:04 AM »
Dlew did you buy all those Eve6 albums?
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #264 on: February 02, 2022, 09:35:19 AM »
they should find nothing but faith in nothing

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #265 on: February 02, 2022, 09:36:55 AM »
I've never heard any of these songs, but in solidarity with Eve6 I vow to never listen to their music on a streaming service. Who dares join me?
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #266 on: February 02, 2022, 09:37:22 AM »
Dlew did you buy all those Eve6 albums?

Did you watch them perform in Aggieville for New Years?

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #267 on: February 02, 2022, 09:38:45 AM »
I also don’t think we should ignore the role Spotify and similar services have played in largely killing the pirated music industry. Of course they’re greedy, but they can only eff over artists if the market demands it.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #268 on: February 02, 2022, 09:40:03 AM »
I've never heard any of these songs, but in solidarity with Eve6 I vow to never listen to their music on a streaming service. Who dares join me?
https://twitter.com/Eve6/status/1488897511636959234?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Can't spell spotify without spy  :sdeek:

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #269 on: February 02, 2022, 09:41:31 AM »
I choose to give all my #data to Google
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #270 on: February 02, 2022, 09:53:56 AM »
Yea just take your pick of which tech company you use that’s spying on you already
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Re: What%u2019s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #271 on: February 02, 2022, 10:06:48 AM »
I've never heard any of these songs

I don't believe you

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Re: What%u2019s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #272 on: February 02, 2022, 10:19:11 AM »
I've never heard any of these songs

I don't believe you

OK, I will consede that it's likely I have heard one of those songs at some point in my life so I'll qualify my statement that none of those songs sound familiar.
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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #273 on: February 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM »
eve6 guy is an amazing follow on twitter.  He will pop off randomly at 3rd eye blind and it is amaze.

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Re: What’s the Joe Rogan thing?
« Reply #274 on: February 02, 2022, 10:34:09 AM »
I've never heard any of these songs, but in solidarity with Eve6 I vow to never listen to their music on a streaming service. Who dares join me?
Done.


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