Possible WW3 thread

[LickNeckey]

cut military spending

Common Ground!!!

[sonofdaxjones]

When I'm not sure I really like the subject and/or the way the discussion is going I deflect to "common ground" . . . Lick

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[sonofdaxjones]

Common Ground:  A #blueanongE/#neocongE tap out regimen

[star seed 7]

Dax hates common ground, which is entirely on brand for this dusty old curmudgeon

[sonofdaxjones]

When we're embarrassed that leaders of our movement (be it #blueanon/#blueanonneocon) are being complete lunatics (again) we declare COMMON GROUND . . . #blueanongE/#neocongE

[sonofdaxjones]

A grifters paradise . . .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2023/02/01/ukrainian-officials-raid-zelensky-linked-billionaires-home-amid-corruption-crackdown/?sh=1b3386276533

Treasury says everything is fine, nothing to worry about 

[Dugout DickStone]

good crackdown.  lock him up

[sonofdaxjones]

Grifters getting competition out of the way . . .

Smart move.  With BlackRock, Goldman Sachs and plenty of others lined up, the satchels of cash are going to be flying like bales of hay

[sys]

cut military spending

Common Ground!!!

vetoed.

[sys]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/07/asia/f-35-aircraft-carrier-crash-new-video-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/02/14/us-air-force-fleets-mission-capable-rates-are-stagnating-heres-the-plan-to-change-that/

https://www.businessinsider.com/ongoing-f35-fighter-jet-problems-affect-whole-us-military-fleet-2023-1

The problems with the f35 are well documented,

as you say, the development problems are well documented, and those articles intimate that most of the current readiness problems stem from a lack of spare parts.  which, if you're ready to jump on the we need to invest in our military manufacturing capacity train, welcome aboard.

but from what i can find, the platform, in 2023, does what it was supposed to do.  a fact that i think is attested to by the line of countries asking for permission to buy it.

[sys]

been a while since i've seen a jomini update.

https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1620626767366209537

[Sandstone Outcropping]

been a while since i've seen a jomini update.

https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1620626767366209537

his threads are always interesting

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1621095382771175426?s=20&t=_-kfJeYJ94HmKLcNldeygg

[sonofdaxjones]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/07/asia/f-35-aircraft-carrier-crash-new-video-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/02/14/us-air-force-fleets-mission-capable-rates-are-stagnating-heres-the-plan-to-change-that/

https://www.businessinsider.com/ongoing-f35-fighter-jet-problems-affect-whole-us-military-fleet-2023-1

The problems with the f35 are well documented,

as you say, the development problems are well documented, and those articles intimate that most of the current readiness problems stem from a lack of spare parts.  which, if you're ready to jump on the we need to invest in our military manufacturing capacity train, welcome aboard.

but from what i can find, the platform, in 2023, does what it was supposed to do.  a fact that i think is attested to by the line of countries asking for permission to buy it.

Some of the cleanest most ethical business dealings in the world is the foreign arms sales business.   

[Kat Kid]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/07/asia/f-35-aircraft-carrier-crash-new-video-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/02/14/us-air-force-fleets-mission-capable-rates-are-stagnating-heres-the-plan-to-change-that/

https://www.businessinsider.com/ongoing-f35-fighter-jet-problems-affect-whole-us-military-fleet-2023-1

The problems with the f35 are well documented,

as you say, the development problems are well documented, and those articles intimate that most of the current readiness problems stem from a lack of spare parts.  which, if you're ready to jump on the we need to invest in our military manufacturing capacity train, welcome aboard.

but from what i can find, the platform, in 2023, does what it was supposed to do.  a fact that i think is attested to by the line of countries asking for permission to buy it.

The biggest problem by far is the entire project is not cost effective and absurd. The effectiveness is secondary. Why in 2023 are we building new jets instead of investing in drones? The future is unmanned of all types—cheap swarms, big predator style, small scouts. The Ukraine war has made this pretty clear! The cost-benefit of putting an insanely highly trained human in a multi billion dollar target vs. risking a drone is just obvious. There is really not a place for manned fighter jets, this should be the absolute last of its kind, but we are starting a manned bomber instead. Crazy!

And a ton has been written the entire procurement process that arrived at the design by trying to accommodate the demands of each branch was bad to begin with even if you want a manned aircraft to being with.  Trying to have a single platform that demands vertical takeoff severely compromises capabilities for navy and Air Force.

[LickNeckey]

When we're embarrassed that leaders of our movement (be it #blueanon/#blueanonneocon) are being complete lunatics (again) we declare COMMON GROUND . . . #blueanongE/#neocongE

you are a very strange person with a broken dichotomous brain

[sonofdaxjones]

When we're embarrassed that leaders of our movement (be it #blueanon/#blueanonneocon) are being complete lunatics (again) we declare COMMON GROUND . . . #blueanongE/#neocongE

you are a very strange person with a broken dichotomous brain

Not nearly as strange as filling up thread after thread melting down about all things Republican and then getting embarrassed about the ubiquitous lunacy of Dems aka the new home of the #neocon and wanting to deflect from that being  discussed by invoking “common ground” like a child.

[LickNeckey]

both parties are full of neo-cons

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

this is not news

agreeing on policy positions just breaks your dichotomous brain

[sonofdaxjones]

both parties are full of neo-cons

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

this is not news

agreeing on policy positions just breaks your dichotomous brain

This isn't about "policy positions" . . . because what is being made fun of is the #blueanon/#blueanongE/#blueanonneocon lunatic espousing a terrible policy position . . . and thus the lunatic is deservedly mocked and ridiculed. 

Insofar as your other Captain Obvious comment about both sides having #neocons, that's true.  But at this time on the right the #neocons are primarily elected officials, on the left the #neocons/#neolibs are both elected and a huge swath of the #neocon policy community that the left has assimilated as their own.

[Kat Kid]

Could you expand on the China skyrocketing their defense capabilities?

see the graph katkid posted.

I missed this, but lol. That graph is in the hall of fame of misleading/bad graphs. Absolutely wildin out with the 2 y axis trick.

[wetwillie]

Could you expand on the China skyrocketing their defense capabilities?

see the graph katkid posted.

I missed this, but lol. That graph is in the hall of fame of misleading/bad graphs. Absolutely wildin out with the 2 y axis trick.

You mean the St Louis Fed DOESN’T have a good handle on china’s military expenditure?

[Kat Kid]

I think they have a great idea about it, the graph is specifically designed to give the impression we have been surpassed by China.

[sys]

I missed this, but lol. That graph is in the hall of fame of misleading/bad graphs. Absolutely wildin out with the 2 y axis trick.

it is, yeah.  but partially cancelled out by china getting a lot more for their yuan than we get for our dollar.

[sys]

Biden is essentially a moderate republican (if those still existed)

not to pick this apart too much, but biden is objectively the most left-leaning president in u.s. history and his career has been defined by his efforts to constantly position himself at the ideological center of the dem party.

there's just no way to view him as "essentially a moderate republican".