Possible WW3 thread

[Pete]

Also, my bad for just assuming this, but I believe that Russia is our enemy. Obviously if someone disagrees with that, then we will have wildly different opinions.

[sys]

It would undoubtedly have to give up some border territory.

you've stated a couple of times that this is a border dispute.  and you started this off by stating that you thought peace could have been agreed upon in april if foreign countries hadn't aided ukraine in it's defense.

so i think it's important to point out that russia invaded on 2/24.  it did not invade just border regions, but the heart of the country, with the intent to take the capital.  what turned this conflict into a "border dispute" by april were the decisions of millions of ukrainians to bleed and die resisting the invasion rather than be ruled by another country.

[wetwillie]

Don’t think they would have put up much of a fight without 100’s of billions of US weapons

[Pete]

I am really curious about who blew up the pipeline. I personally doubt that Sleepy Joe would make that call.

[sys]

Don’t think they would have put up much of a fight without 100’s of billions of US weapons

they had almost nothing in the way of american weaponry when they turned back the russians from kiev.  from all reports they did benefit from shared u.s. intel, though.

[sys]

russian mothers weigh in on how many dead russians is enough.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1575239006560059392

[catastrophe]

It would undoubtedly have to give up some border territory.

you've stated a couple of times that this is a border dispute.  and you started this off by stating that you thought peace could have been agreed upon in april if foreign countries hadn't aided ukraine in it's defense.

so i think it's important to point out that russia invaded on 2/24.  it did not invade just border regions, but the heart of the country, with the intent to take the capital.  what turned this conflict into a "border dispute" by april were the decisions of millions of ukrainians to bleed and die resisting the invasion rather than be ruled by another country.

Yes it’s quite odd to gloss over the fact that Russia clearly attempted to take Kiev in a matter of weeks.

[sonofdaxjones]

Why pipelines get blown up by the United States . . .

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/26/689860/Germany-Russia-Gas-Link-Demo-Nord-Stream

[Cire]

From the Kremlin to Dax’s Facebook feed

https://twitter.com/emmamashford/status/1575139529169801216?s=46&t=1w-zEA54OcJcQFsUpAI1AQ


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[sonofdaxjones]

It would undoubtedly have to give up some border territory.

you've stated a couple of times that this is a border dispute.  and you started this off by stating that you thought peace could have been agreed upon in april if foreign countries hadn't aided ukraine in it's defense.

so i think it's important to point out that russia invaded on 2/24.  it did not invade just border regions, but the heart of the country, with the intent to take the capital.  what turned this conflict into a "border dispute" by april were the decisions of millions of ukrainians to bleed and die resisting the invasion rather than be ruled by another country.

Yes it’s quite odd to gloss over the fact that Russia clearly attempted to take Kiev in a matter of weeks.

The best part is Joe’s #neocons trying to get Zelensky out of there before he did anymore negotiating with the Russians to stop the fighting.

[sonofdaxjones]

From the Kremlin to Dax’s Facebook feed

https://twitter.com/emmamashford/status/1575139529169801216?s=46&t=1w-zEA54OcJcQFsUpAI1AQ


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It’s positively fascinating  watching  absolute derps like @cire and @sys repeatedly regurgitate the #neocon narrative

Why the United States blows up pipelines


https://news.yahoo.com/germans-call-nord-stream-2-050655816.html

https://twitter.com/radiogenova/status/1574489634071105536?s=46&t=_vAE1YCvBeM56goOFTmJWA

[Sandstone Outcropping]

I am really curious about who blew up the pipeline. I personally doubt that Sleepy Joe would make that call.

Tucker has thoughts, is asking questions:

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1575327656261947392?s=20&t=kNlG22e9AKKO20s7oqJNDQ

[Cire]

Yes, as soon as it happened, the Kremlin had a full on blitz about it

[Pete]

What a coincidence!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yet here we are with the US as a co-belligerent in what essentially started out as a border dispute in a region where nations (people) have often not matched the official borders for one reason or another.

This is the sort of nationalistic thought that led the Germans down the rabbit hole to the holocaust. The American way is better.

[ChiComCat]

The best part is Joe’s #neocons trying to get Zelensky out of there before he did anymore negotiating with the Russians to stop the fighting.

This is an interesting take

[sonofdaxjones]

Joe Biden and Victoria “eff the EU” Nuland openly proclaiming months ago that Nordstream would be stopped “one way or another” if Russia invaded Ukraine. 

Yet the only thing the massive derps of #neocongE can concentrate on is Tucker Carlson and Russian state media. 

LOL so 1000% on brand #thumbsup

[sonofdaxjones]

Congrats to Vlad Putin for blowing up his own pipeline without anyone knowing he was doing it . . . In arguably the most surveilled piece of ocean on the planet.  Installing US Presidents, blowing up pipelines, hacking almost every U.S. government computer platform in existence, the man is relentless.

Hell Twitter and multiple publications and trackers knew the US Navy was conducting trials over that area a few months ago, US helicopters repeatedly tracked in the vicinity, the USS Kersage nearby.  But nobody apparently had a damn clue the Russians were rigging their pipeline to blow in the middle Baltic, in relatively shallow water.

The Swedes confirmed the explosions took place in water and not inside any encasement or bedrock.

[wetwillie]

Congrats to Vlad Putin for blowing up his own pipeline without anyone knowing he was doing it . . . In arguably the most surveilled piece of ocean on the planet.  Installing US Presidents, blowing up pipelines, hacking almost every U.S. government computer platform in existence, the man is relentless.

The Swedes confirmed the explosions took place in water and not inside any encasement or bedrock. 

If that’s the most surveilled piece of the ocean, there is certainly proof of who did it right?  If it’s obvious the US did it, what will Russia’s response be?

[sonofdaxjones]

Re-read my edited post

[catastrophe]

The best part is Joe’s #neocons trying to get Zelensky out of there before he did anymore negotiating with the Russians to stop the fighting.

This is an interesting take

Dax is just showing his entire ass here.

Zelensky refuses to leave: US fighting to the last Ukrainian—SAD

(Alternative reality) Zelensky agrees to be evacuated: US meddling to keep Ukraine from peace talks—SAD

[I_have_purplewood]

Joe Biden and Victoria “eff the EU” Nuland openly proclaiming months ago that Nordstream would be stopped “one way or another” if Russia invaded Ukraine. 

Yet the only thing the massive derps of #neocongE can concentrate on is Tucker Carlson and Russian state media. 

LOL so 1000% on brand #thumbsup

You're going to believe Clapper though? 

[sonofdaxjones]

The best part is Joe’s #neocons trying to get Zelensky out of there before he did anymore negotiating with the Russians to stop the fighting.

This is an interesting take

Dax is just showing his entire ass here.

Zelensky refuses to leave: US fighting to the last Ukrainian—SAD

(Alternative reality) Zelensky agrees to be evacuated: US meddling to keep Ukraine from peace talks—SAD

You’re such an amazing Derp. 

You refuse to even take on the reality that the United States and UK scuttled Russian - Ukrainian negotiations. 

If you’re stupid enough to believe that our #neocons wanted someone democratically elected and openly extolling negotiations, leading Ukraine.  You’re even a bigger Derp than I already knew you were.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The best part is Joe’s #neocons trying to get Zelensky out of there before he did anymore negotiating with the Russians to stop the fighting.

This is an interesting take

Dax is just showing his entire ass here.

Zelensky refuses to leave: US fighting to the last Ukrainian—SAD

(Alternative reality) Zelensky agrees to be evacuated: US meddling to keep Ukraine from peace talks—SAD

I think the talking point is actually that the US wanted to move Zelensky to a location where they could kill him.

[ChiComCat]

If Zelensky left then I think Russia would've already won.