Possible WW3 thread

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Here, with pictures.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/is-russia-in-europe-or-asia.html

Dax is excluding russia from europe because of the vast siberian wasteland in asia and disregarding how the people live in europe, moscow is the 2nd largest city in europe, the UN declares russia part of europe, etc. Or so he can keep saying that ukraine is the most corrupt country in europe, not because he gives a eff about any of that but because eff biden, obama, clinton, etc.

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We are not supporting Russia

If only “we” here truly meant “we,” dax included.

[sonofdaxjones]

Here, with pictures.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/is-russia-in-europe-or-asia.html

Dax is excluding russia from europe because of the vast siberian wasteland in asia and disregarding how the people live in europe, moscow is the 2nd largest city in europe, the UN declares russia part of europe, etc. Or so he can keep saying that ukraine is the most corrupt country in europe, not because he gives a eff about any of that but because eff biden, obama, clinton, etc.

  of course Trim completely disregards the fact that over 2/3's of Russia is in Asia.

Just accept the fact that there's no debate about Ukraine. 1. It is absolutely in Europe and 2.  It is absolutely the most corrupt country in Europe, and  3. We are sending billions upon billions of dollars to the most corrupt country in Europe

[nicname]

Posting this list again for reference ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

There isn't a European country worse in the corruption index than Ukraine -- unless you count Russia.

Yes, that’s the wiki page for the same thing we’re talking about that was cited in dax's The American Conservative commentary.

Seems like a pretty good source. I don't get the rub. Dax, just call Russia mega-corrupt as well and I think we're all good here.

This whole invasion is like when the bloods initially carved out some crip territory as their own. Then they ran it for some time, despite local crips often trying to give control back over to Big Crip. Then a group of extra hardline Bloods really entrenched themselves as bosses of the area with the help of the Mexican Mafia, which really frustrated Big Crip, who sent in their legion of crip goons to take the most strategic areas of the new blood area back for the crips leading to piles upon piles of dead crips, bloods and of course regular neighborhood residents.

[sonofdaxjones]

We are not supporting Russia

If only “we” here truly meant “we,” dax included.

He comes a series of Cat 5/F5/7.5 Richter level tapouts

[nicname]

ITT, two dorks arguing semantics.

Edit: Dorks who I enjoy!!

[Dugout DickStone]

He is the author of 12 books, including NATO: The Dangerous Dinosaur (2019), Gullible Superpower: U.S. Support for Bogus Foreign Democratic Movements (2019), The Ties That Blind: How the U.S.-Saudi Alliance Damages Liberty and Security (2018), Perilous Partners: The Benefits and Pitfalls of America’s Alliances with Authoritarian Regimes (2015), The Fire Next Door: Mexico’s Drug Violence and the Danger to America (2012), Smart Power: Toward a Prudent Foreign Policy for America (2008), America’s Coming War with China: A Collision Course over Taiwan (2005), The Korean Conundrum: America’s Troubled Relations with North and South Korea (2004), Bad Neighbor Policy: Washington’s Futile War on Drugs in Latin America (2003), The Captive Press: Foreign Policy Crises and the First Amendment (1995), Beyond NATO: Staying Out of Europe’s Wars (1994), and A Search for Enemies: America’s Alliances after the Cold War (1992). He also is the editor of 10 books on international issues, including NATO’s Empty Victory: A Postmortem on the Balkan War (2000), Delusions of Grandeur: The United Nations and Global Intervention (1997), and America Entangled: The Persian Gulf Crisis and Its Consequences (1991).

Carpenter is a contributing editor to the National Interest, the American Conservative, and 19FortyFive, and is a weekly columnist at Anti?war?.com. He serves on the editorial board of the Journal of Strategic Studies and was a member of Mediterranean Quarterly’s editorial board from 1998 to 2018. Carpenter is the author of more than 950 articles and policy studies. His articles have appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, the Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, the National Interest, World Policy Journal, and many other publications. He is a frequent guest on radio and television programs in the United States, Latin America, Europe, East Asia, and other regions.

Carpenter received his PhD in U.S. diplomatic history from the University of Texas.

https://www.cato.org/people/ted-galen-carpenter

Imagine the weirdo watchlist you get on buying all that crap.

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ITT, two dorks arguing semantics.

Edit: Dorks who I enjoy!!

When time allows and only when he rolls with some unbelievable statement/theory multiple times, it’s fun to fact-check dax and/or look at where he’s getting his crazy crap from.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yes, the crazy crap that's been a primary component of U.S. policy in Ukraine for over a decade.

The Not Knower Trim rolls hard as always.

[sonofdaxjones]

He is the author of 12 books, including NATO: The Dangerous Dinosaur (2019), Gullible Superpower: U.S. Support for Bogus Foreign Democratic Movements (2019), The Ties That Blind: How the U.S.-Saudi Alliance Damages Liberty and Security (2018), Perilous Partners: The Benefits and Pitfalls of America’s Alliances with Authoritarian Regimes (2015), The Fire Next Door: Mexico’s Drug Violence and the Danger to America (2012), Smart Power: Toward a Prudent Foreign Policy for America (2008), America’s Coming War with China: A Collision Course over Taiwan (2005), The Korean Conundrum: America’s Troubled Relations with North and South Korea (2004), Bad Neighbor Policy: Washington’s Futile War on Drugs in Latin America (2003), The Captive Press: Foreign Policy Crises and the First Amendment (1995), Beyond NATO: Staying Out of Europe’s Wars (1994), and A Search for Enemies: America’s Alliances after the Cold War (1992). He also is the editor of 10 books on international issues, including NATO’s Empty Victory: A Postmortem on the Balkan War (2000), Delusions of Grandeur: The United Nations and Global Intervention (1997), and America Entangled: The Persian Gulf Crisis and Its Consequences (1991).

Carpenter is a contributing editor to the National Interest, the American Conservative, and 19FortyFive, and is a weekly columnist at Anti?war?.com. He serves on the editorial board of the Journal of Strategic Studies and was a member of Mediterranean Quarterly’s editorial board from 1998 to 2018. Carpenter is the author of more than 950 articles and policy studies. His articles have appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, the Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, the National Interest, World Policy Journal, and many other publications. He is a frequent guest on radio and television programs in the United States, Latin America, Europe, East Asia, and other regions.

Carpenter received his PhD in U.S. diplomatic history from the University of Texas.

https://www.cato.org/people/ted-galen-carpenter

Imagine the weirdo watchlist you get on buying all that crap.

smart people are scary . . . #slowdug

[sonofdaxjones]

These are the people that #neocongE believe at all times . . .

https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1592632386751434752?s=20&t=hz-N7JiU2Xst4uEMDP_BrA

[sonofdaxjones]

#neocongE believes every word

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1592851112654032898?s=20&t=-YBtA8CaIeP4dhpyVAhygw

[star seed 7]

Dax, I see you edited your post calling zelensky a us puppet boy who wants to start ww3. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you could explain why the the leader of the country most likely to be nuked would want ww3? In your own opinion of course.

[sonofdaxjones]

Dax, I see you edited your post calling zelensky a us puppet boy who wants to start ww3. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you could explain why the the leader of the country most likely to be nuked would want ww3? In your own opinion of course.

He's been begging for direct NATO involvement for months.

Oh, and LOL at the notion that if nukes are used, it's just going to be Ukraine that gets nuked. 

Goodness, take several laps DeflectoBot.7

[star seed 7]

You didn't answer the question and daxflected to something I didn't say.

Would you like to try again?

[sonofdaxjones]

What you asked makes no sense relative to what we already know.

We know that Zelensky has been begging for direct NATO support for months.  Your question also pre-supposes that World War III only means nuclear war.

If the dude doesn't want WWIII then why did they just flat lie about the missiles that hit Poland?  Or at minimum immediately openly say that Russia did it?

[sonofdaxjones]

Clearly a man not gunning for WWIII

This is a Russian missile attack on collective security -- a very significant escalation. We must act”

[Dugout DickStone]

He is the author of 12 books, including NATO: The Dangerous Dinosaur (2019), Gullible Superpower: U.S. Support for Bogus Foreign Democratic Movements (2019), The Ties That Blind: How the U.S.-Saudi Alliance Damages Liberty and Security (2018), Perilous Partners: The Benefits and Pitfalls of America’s Alliances with Authoritarian Regimes (2015), The Fire Next Door: Mexico’s Drug Violence and the Danger to America (2012), Smart Power: Toward a Prudent Foreign Policy for America (2008), America’s Coming War with China: A Collision Course over Taiwan (2005), The Korean Conundrum: America’s Troubled Relations with North and South Korea (2004), Bad Neighbor Policy: Washington’s Futile War on Drugs in Latin America (2003), The Captive Press: Foreign Policy Crises and the First Amendment (1995), Beyond NATO: Staying Out of Europe’s Wars (1994), and A Search for Enemies: America’s Alliances after the Cold War (1992). He also is the editor of 10 books on international issues, including NATO’s Empty Victory: A Postmortem on the Balkan War (2000), Delusions of Grandeur: The United Nations and Global Intervention (1997), and America Entangled: The Persian Gulf Crisis and Its Consequences (1991).

Carpenter is a contributing editor to the National Interest, the American Conservative, and 19FortyFive, and is a weekly columnist at Anti?war?.com. He serves on the editorial board of the Journal of Strategic Studies and was a member of Mediterranean Quarterly’s editorial board from 1998 to 2018. Carpenter is the author of more than 950 articles and policy studies. His articles have appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, the Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, the National Interest, World Policy Journal, and many other publications. He is a frequent guest on radio and television programs in the United States, Latin America, Europe, East Asia, and other regions.

Carpenter received his PhD in U.S. diplomatic history from the University of Texas.

https://www.cato.org/people/ted-galen-carpenter

Imagine the weirdo watchlist you get on buying all that crap.

smart people are scary . . . #slowdug

Stupid people are scarier

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ITT, two dorks arguing semantics.

Edit: Dorks who I enjoy!!

When time allows and only when he rolls with some unbelievable statement/theory multiple times, it’s fun to fact-check dax and/or look at where he’s getting his crazy crap from.

Yes, the crazy crap that's been a primary component of U.S. policy in Ukraine for over a decade.

The Not Knower Trim rolls hard as always.

Not just this crazy crap.  Some recent examples:

https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=42362.msg2168221#msg2168221

https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25202.msg2170130#msg2170130

https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=41737.msg2172198#msg2172198

https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=43692.msg2179913#msg2179913

[catastrophe]

We know that Zelensky has been begging for direct NATO support for months.  Your question also pre-supposes that World War III only means nuclear war.

If the dude doesn't want WWIII then why did they just flat lie about the missiles that hit Poland?  Or at minimum immediately openly say that Russia did it?

Zelensky doesn’t want nukes. He’s indifferent to nuclear war because he understands that if countries like the US stop providing aid then the fate of Ukrainians will probably be worse than if Kiev got nuked.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

So dax is it the Russians living in Siberia (asia) that are responsible for all that corruption? I would have guessed it would have been the folks living in the major population centers that tend to be more in Europe but then, I’m very slow and always down a lap, so, feel free to dunk on me while explaining the flaws in my logic

[sonofdaxjones]

We know that Zelensky has been begging for direct NATO support for months.  Your question also pre-supposes that World War III only means nuclear war.

If the dude doesn't want WWIII then why did they just flat lie about the missiles that hit Poland?  Or at minimum immediately openly say that Russia did it?

Zelensky doesn’t want nukes. He’s indifferent to nuclear war because he understands that if countries like the US stop providing aid then the fate of Ukrainians will probably be worse than if Kiev got nuked.

Well that's debatable, but in this discussion who said anything about Puppet Boy wanting nukes? 

 LOL, at the rest.   The NATO alliance has wanted to encroach on Russia's borders for decades.  That encroachment has meant talk about deploying ABM systems forward towards Russia.  What does that mean?  The perceived desire of the NATO alliance to launch a first strike without fear of substantial retaliation.  In addition, it would at some point almost assure that nuclear weapons flow forward towards bases closer to Russia as well.  Either permanently or temporarily, deployed along with systems to deliver them at forward bases. 

[sonofdaxjones]

So dax is it the Russians living in Siberia (asia) that are responsible for all that corruption? I would have guessed it would have been the folks living in the major population centers that tend to be more in Europe but then, I’m very slow and always down a lap, so, feel free to dunk on me while explaining the flaws in my logic

Using your logic I'll just assume that the majority of corruption in the United States is on the East Coast.  Could be?  Maybe?   

[star seed 7]

Dax, are you aware that Russia is actually the one encroaching on borders?

[sonofdaxjones]

Dax, are you aware that Russia is actually the one encroaching on borders?

Yes DeflectoBot, no new countries have been added to NATO since the end of the cold war, very astute.  NATO didn't bomb the Balkans in violation of the NATO Charter either.