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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2022, 08:19:42 AM »
https://www.axios.com/manchin-outlines-bbb-deal-requirements-723696b5-c602-42ef-907c-fcf08bab96f6.html

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In those informal talks, he's outlined a deal that includes roughly $500 billion for climate and $1 trillion in new revenue.

But the senator isn't indicating any support for universal preschool or any of the other care-economy proposals that were included in Biden's initial "human infrastructure" package.

And Manchin is insisting on reducing the deficit with at least half of the revenue from new corporate taxes, as well as the estimated savings from allowing Medicare to directly negotiate the cost of prescription drugs.

It would really be something if Manchin gets on board for something and Sinema torpedoes it because of the revenue and pharma stuff. I am eager to primary her and that would make it a foregone conclusion so if it comes to it maybe the right way to go.

Progressives are hopefully smart enough to know they don't have any cards to play, but they should definitely insist on no SALT with this small of a number and tell Gottheimer and the SALT caucus to go fornicate with themselves.

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #151 on: March 25, 2022, 09:21:46 AM »
Live look in at negotiations:

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bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #152 on: March 25, 2022, 09:54:13 AM »

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #153 on: March 25, 2022, 01:13:14 PM »
Live look in at negotiations:


Exactly. I bet his $500 billion for climate is so incredibly narrow in scope and almost exclusively tied to corporate interests.

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"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #156 on: July 27, 2022, 05:07:23 PM »
you can't spell joe manchin runs this bitch without joe manchin.
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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #157 on: July 28, 2022, 09:53:34 AM »
I guess he's bored and wants to get back to his favorite pastime



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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #158 on: July 28, 2022, 10:01:15 AM »
great timing for another government spending bill  :flush:

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #159 on: July 28, 2022, 02:37:49 PM »
great timing for another government spending bill  :flush:

deficit reduction bill.
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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #160 on: July 28, 2022, 03:02:09 PM »
lmao

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #161 on: July 28, 2022, 03:02:51 PM »
They were irl spinning it as an inflation reduction bill

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #162 on: July 28, 2022, 03:39:14 PM »
They were irl spinning it as an inflation reduction bill

i mean, it will have a deflationary effect.  doesn't take a lot of spin.
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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #163 on: July 28, 2022, 03:51:47 PM »
How much new tax revenue are we looking at?

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #164 on: July 28, 2022, 04:04:55 PM »
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #165 on: July 29, 2022, 12:01:57 PM »
If the govt is paying less money for drugs, the drug companies will more than likely increase prices for everyone else.  Medicare is already heavily subsidized by everyone not on Medicare.  It’s a zero sum game unless you have somewhere else to get the drugs.

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #166 on: July 29, 2022, 02:26:07 PM »
If the govt is paying less money for drugs, the drug companies will more than likely increase prices for everyone else.  Medicare is already heavily subsidized by everyone not on Medicare.  It’s a zero sum game unless you have somewhere else to get the drugs.

It's almost like our health system sucks balls and taint and needs a huge overhaul.  Weird.

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #167 on: July 29, 2022, 03:08:17 PM »
Nah, we’re good

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #168 on: July 29, 2022, 06:03:32 PM »
I guess he's bored and wants to get back to his favorite pastime


Right! This has no shot.

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #169 on: July 29, 2022, 06:34:58 PM »
Right! This has no shot.

it's pretty much guaranteed to pass.  both the extreme progressives and the salt caucus are on board.  there's no one else likely to eff it up.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #170 on: July 29, 2022, 06:48:10 PM »
The salt caucus should be embarrassed to call themselves that

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #171 on: July 30, 2022, 12:37:24 PM »
Right! This has no shot.

it's pretty much guaranteed to pass.  both the extreme progressives and the salt caucus are on board.  there's no one else likely to eff it up.

There’s sinema

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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #172 on: July 30, 2022, 03:35:17 PM »
sinema needs the bill to pass.  she might make a fuss and get a few details changed, but i'll be amazed if she's not a yes when the voting starts.


one thing i did forget is that like half of these geriatric senators have been exposed to covid in the last couple weeks.  health issues could delay the voting (but they have a fair bit of time).
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Re: bbba and bib discussion.
« Reply #174 on: August 05, 2022, 04:24:38 PM »
Sinema preserving the carried interest loophole is so on brand. She should be priority number 1 for replacement.