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Re: Re: CHIEFS
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2021, 03:53:14 PM »
So I opened this thread to read about Terez Paylor and imagine my surprise to see that even this thread has turned into the latest episode of insecure white man feels aggrieved again. I personally don't care about the afro wigs. I do think Pat is kind of a cornball for signing off on the licensing of such things, but honestly, I probably would have done the same thing at his age, I'm a bit more protective of these things now though. I would have shook my head at anyone who I saw wearing one of these, but I would have kept it moving.

Now this part is definitely going to hurt wacky's feelings. Like I said I don't necessarily share the feelings of the man who wrote that opinion column, however to dismiss that man's feelings as wokeness, is absolutely why people like wacky play a massive role in these racial issues being stuck in the mud, and who allow profiteers like Clay Travis to make money off of mining outrage from insecure white men. You don't have to agree with how that man feels, I don't but to just dismiss his feelings without even considering his point is close-minded at best. The same people who would tell a black man that he is woke because he doesn't feel right about something specific to his race are the very same people who would completely and angrily dismiss any notion that they are racist or that any notions of racism even exist. Whenever these people hear a person of color say something that makes them uncomfortable, the first impulse isn't to understand why, it is to be dismissive. It's gross, I'm sick of it, and I will not allow any place I inhabit as much as I do this here to be a safe place for it to happen without me calling it out.

I haven't had an afro since I was about 6 or 7 years old, I haven't even had hair since 1992. I have no goddamned idea what triggers someone could have related to their hair, and while I don't relate at all, I certainly will listen to those who do and be sympathetic to it, because why the eff wouldn't I? Doing so wouldn't have the least bit of adverse effect on my life.

Wacky, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.

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RIP Terez, I was scared as hell that this was another young black man who lost his life to COVID. I can't describe how scared I am of this disease.
I definitely value your opinion and appreciate this thoughtful post. I cannot relate with a lot of these issues and I need to shut up when it comes to some of this stuff. However, the part I bolded is exactly how I feel about what the media is trying to do about everything these days. Literally lifting rocks to see what might/could be offensive and needs cancelled for a few clicks. I just think it's going to go so far to the point that it will lose it's luster, and some of the important stuff will get overlooked by people who really need educated.

What's the media? That's one persons opinion, you can literally find any opinion about anything ever. There is a cottage industry designed to outrage people with the talking point that "the media" is out to get you (general term). Find some person with an opinion of something that doesn't fit my opinion, which is very easy to find because of the internet. If that opinion appears via some media outlet, assign that opinion to all media and blame them all, but not the media I'm giving the message from or the outlet I represent. Find it on social media, then assign that media to everyone who looks like that person, or better yet, just to "people" or all social media, but of course excluding my social media account and those who think like me.

It can't be a surprise that someone felt uneasy about these wigs. It isn't like dude called anyone racist, he even pointed out that even here in the 2021 there has to be legislation in the area with regard to discrimination based on people's hair.

I promise you that of the people who actually work for the KC Star, a gigantic majority of those would wear that wig and not have a single problem doing so. This wasn't some vast media left wing conspiracy to make white men feel bad about themselves, very very very very few things are.

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Re: Re: CHIEFS
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2021, 09:02:57 PM »

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Re: Re: CHIEFS
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2021, 09:12:28 PM »
Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2021, 10:03:49 PM »
Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.
I think you know that's very different

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2021, 10:06:58 PM »
Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.
I think you know that's very different
For now :dunno:

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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2021, 10:35:38 PM »
Wearing a jersey of a player that you love, that you don’t share the same ethnicity with is next.
I think you know that's very different
For now :dunno:
Only difference so far is not wearing a patterned mahomes head band with a fake fro attached to it.

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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2021, 10:49:53 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2021, 10:52:05 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2021, 11:01:15 PM »
Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic

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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2021, 11:20:01 PM »
Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2021, 11:28:14 PM »
Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?

I didn't say that, but the fact that the wigs are for charity doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic

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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2021, 11:35:21 PM »
Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?

I didn't say that, but the fact that the wigs are for charity doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic

Mahomes signing off on the wigs doesn't mean they aren't a tad problematic
So white Ppl supporting the cause and buying them are, for a goddamn charity support?
Man, I agree, somewhat, but how did we go from a rebel board, to preaching how adolescent others are here. I’m not saying it’s you, Mich, but jfc, grow up ppl. The founders started the Precedent for what this board was and now they’re trying to change the game on posters who they use to dox for their own well being.

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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2021, 11:44:44 PM »
I'm just suggesting you consider the thoughts and opinions of people like the author of the column or MiR more than opinions from people like Clay Travis on issues like this.

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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2021, 11:55:19 PM »
I honestly hate Clay. I’m a moderate. I just disagree with MIR’s assessment that “White man, mad!” Stuff. Half my wedding party was African American and had zero affiliation with either of our families. I’ll never be able to relate to MIR’s experiences growing up, but I’m not his token Midwestern white boy he’s painting a picture with, that you all are letting him slide by with, because he knows some of the mods. Idgaf bud, happy you’re doing well. Go cats! Have a night of it!
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Re: Re: CHIEFS
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2021, 09:02:12 AM »
can you guys please take this crap to the pit where it belongs, i have tried to steer the conversation away from this

Well wacky can't post there and I'm certain you aren't suggesting that he can just pedal this without questions being asked.

As for you wacky, I'm genuinely curious about your tone change on this. I'm also at a loss for why this makes you so mad, why you keep bringing it up unsolicited, over and over again. No one was called a racist yet you keep using that language. These are rhetorical questions because you've yet to address it but why this one man's opinion about this has you on tilt so much. No one called you a token white boy, again your language not mine. You are someone who has a very hard time listening to any different opinion without going full tilt. It's exactly why you don't have access to the pit, whomever banned you from it has your best interests in mind.

Those tweet replies don't address the opinion at all, they are just things you feel that affirm your beliefs. You don't have to agree with the dude, I already said I don't, but you should probably do some introspection about why this makes you so mad.

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Re: CHIEFS/NFL Pit Thread
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2021, 10:46:20 AM »
damnit MIR white fragility needs a poster boy and Wacks is giving us his best

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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2021, 11:22:29 AM »
So I opened this thread to read about Terez Paylor and imagine my surprise to see that even this thread has turned into the latest episode of insecure white man feels aggrieved again. I personally don't care about the afro wigs. I do think Pat is kind of a cornball for signing off on the licensing of such things, but honestly, I probably would have done the same thing at his age, I'm a bit more protective of these things now though. I would have shook my head at anyone who I saw wearing one of these, but I would have kept it moving.

Now this part is definitely going to hurt wacky's feelings. Like I said I don't necessarily share the feelings of the man who wrote that opinion column, however to dismiss that man's feelings as wokeness, is absolutely why people like wacky play a massive role in these racial issues being stuck in the mud, and who allow profiteers like Clay Travis to make money off of mining outrage from insecure white men. You don't have to agree with how that man feels, I don't but to just dismiss his feelings without even considering his point is close-minded at best. The same people who would tell a black man that he is woke because he doesn't feel right about something specific to his race are the very same people who would completely and angrily dismiss any notion that they are racist or that any notions of racism even exist. Whenever these people hear a person of color say something that makes them uncomfortable, the first impulse isn't to understand why, it is to be dismissive. It's gross, I'm sick of it, and I will not allow any place I inhabit as much as I do this here to be a safe place for it to happen without me calling it out.

I haven't had an afro since I was about 6 or 7 years old, I haven't even had hair since 1992. I have no goddamned idea what triggers someone could have related to their hair, and while I don't relate at all, I certainly will listen to those who do and be sympathetic to it, because why the eff wouldn't I? Doing so wouldn't have the least bit of adverse effect on my life.

Wacky, open up your mind, stop being mad about everything, looking under every rock for reasons to be aggrieved isn't great for anyone's mental health and it is poisonous to our society, if you care about such things.

End rant.

RIP Terez, I was scared as hell that this was another young black man who lost his life to COVID. I can't describe how scared I am of this disease.

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Re: CHIEFS/NFL Pit Thread
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2021, 11:26:29 AM »
What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?

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« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2021, 11:35:54 AM »
What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?

Who are you asking that question of and why is it even relevant?

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« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2021, 01:28:44 PM »
What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?

Who are you asking that question of and why is it even relevant?
Well we are talking about cultural appropriation are we not? This is a general question, I'd love to hear your input as well. Also mich a kid wearing a halloween costume of someone he idolizes I hope you are 100% gEing

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« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2021, 01:36:17 PM »
What if Mahomes identifies as 'white'?

Who are you asking that question of and why is it even relevant?
Well we are talking about cultural appropriation are we not? This is a general question, I'd love to hear your input as well. Also mich a kid wearing a halloween costume of someone he idolizes I hope you are 100% gEing

Patrick Mahomes doesn't speak for the culture though, no more than the gentleman that wrote that opinion column. His excusing it doesn't make every other person who has felt like they have been the victim of bias because of their hair feel better. Dave Chappelle wearing a dreadlock wig on Half Baked isn't going to make that wrestler who had to cut his locs off while literally on the mat feel better.

I think it is absurd the prevailing thought about this is that "Pat Mahomes thinks it's okay, so every other person in the world should be fine with it." If he did identify as white, which isn't the least bit relevant, would make this opinion even more absurd.

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Re: CHIEFS/NFL Pit Thread
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2021, 01:39:46 PM »
The kids aren't dressing up as "a black guy" for Halloween, though. They are dressing up as Patrick Mahomes, so frankly, his opinion is the only one that matters.

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« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2021, 01:41:07 PM »
Are we so far gone as a society that an educator who probably borrowed a wig to dress up as Patrick Mahomes is newsworthy? It's what's honestly wrong with the media. It's just a hot thing to write about and add fuel

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« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2021, 01:46:34 PM »
It really does suck that a schoolteacher who bought a wig for a charity is having her picture printed in the newspaper in some sort of poorly thought out smear campaign.