The Biden (interim) Dictator

[MakeItRain]

MIR, I know what your narrative is here and what you’ll try to ignore. You’re very calculated and easy to read. You never Took this time to decode Trump stuff. Your agenda is well known!

Well we still don't know if you didn't read the post or didn't understand it. I don't know why you used the phrase "decode trump stuff" in response to my post, it's complete nonsense, doesn't mean a solitary thing.

[MakeItRain]

Walk me through an example of how one of these precious documents gets to and/or stays in trump's house or biden's garage, particularly how they're accounted for to know they're not where they should be, when they should be.

This is what I want to know. I know how and why trump took documents to Magalago. What I really need to know is how Biden has these documents in random rough ridin' places.

Biden's issue is much more serious to national security IMHO. Trump was hiding documents, he knew what he had and where he had them. It seems like Biden just ended up taking documents from briefings and just randomly leaving them places. If Obama's administration let Biden be so loosy goosy with these documents, you have to think there are other people who just have classified documents laying around.

Biden's issue is more serious to national security as we understand both situations so far, but there is/was conjecture that Trump was looking to profit off the documents he held onto. If proven, I think it's pretty obvious which is the bigger national security issue.

I'm also glad there's a special counsel looking into both. Good on Garland.

Conjecture from who? Who would he have sold them to and if that was the plan, why didn't he do it? It's pretty clear that he held on to a desire to be president again, it doesn't make sense to sell secrets that could one day be used against the country he's running.

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/12/politics/biden-documents-final-days-vice-president-aides-scramble/index.html

[sonofdaxjones]

"Literally on the last days of his term, the U.S. Vice President Joe Biden is going to Kyiv. How can we explain this attention to us?" . . . Ukrainian state media

Joe headed over to look out for Biden Family Inc operations in Ukraine.  Wanted to make sure that Hunter’s Burisma’s grift was solid and that Biden Family Inc was getting their cut from the now exponentially growing grift this junta is running through Ukraine.  Now featuring  Black Rock (with a “former” Black Rock director running point on Ukrainian policy in the Treasury Dept). 


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[catastrophe]

Walk me through an example of how one of these precious documents gets to and/or stays in trump's house or biden's garage, particularly how they're accounted for to know they're not where they should be, when they should be.

This is what I want to know. I know how and why trump took documents to Magalago. What I really need to know is how Biden has these documents in random rough ridin' places.

Biden's issue is much more serious to national security IMHO. Trump was hiding documents, he knew what he had and where he had them. It seems like Biden just ended up taking documents from briefings and just randomly leaving them places. If Obama's administration let Biden be so loosy goosy with these documents, you have to think there are other people who just have classified documents laying around.

Biden's issue is more serious to national security as we understand both situations so far, but there is/was conjecture that Trump was looking to profit off the documents he held onto. If proven, I think it's pretty obvious which is the bigger national security issue.

I'm also glad there's a special counsel looking into both. Good on Garland.

Conjecture from who? Who would he have sold them to and if that was the plan, why didn't he do it? It's pretty clear that he held on to a desire to be president again, it doesn't make sense to sell secrets that could one day be used against the country he's running.

This article kind of runs through the concern: https://www.businessinsider.com/former-fbi-official-trump-nuclear-information-highest-price-tag-2022-9?amp

It makes total sense to sell state secrets if you care about yourself more than the country you’re running.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Walk me through an example of how one of these precious documents gets to and/or stays in trump's house or biden's garage, particularly how they're accounted for to know they're not where they should be, when they should be.

This is what I want to know. I know how and why trump took documents to Magalago. What I really need to know is how Biden has these documents in random rough ridin' places.

Biden's issue is much more serious to national security IMHO. Trump was hiding documents, he knew what he had and where he had them. It seems like Biden just ended up taking documents from briefings and just randomly leaving them places. If Obama's administration let Biden be so loosy goosy with these documents, you have to think there are other people who just have classified documents laying around.

Biden's issue is more serious to national security as we understand both situations so far, but there is/was conjecture that Trump was looking to profit off the documents he held onto. If proven, I think it's pretty obvious which is the bigger national security issue.

I'm also glad there's a special counsel looking into both. Good on Garland.

Conjecture from who? Who would he have sold them to and if that was the plan, why didn't he do it? It's pretty clear that he held on to a desire to be president again, it doesn't make sense to sell secrets that could one day be used against the country he's running.

This article kind of runs through the concern: https://www.businessinsider.com/former-fbi-official-trump-nuclear-information-highest-price-tag-2022-9?amp

It makes total sense to sell state secrets if you care about yourself more than the country you’re running.

For trump, i'm not sure that "selling state secrets" and "being president again" were mutually exclusive. dude was so brazen in the crap he would pull i sincerely believe that in his mind he could do pretty much whatever he felt like doing without losing any of his base. I dunno if there is any evidence of him showing any sort of restraint at any point during his presidency i have not been able to find it.
When he was originally campaigning he said he could shoot someone dead in the middle of 5th avenue and it wouldn't cost him a vote and while that's an extremely strange thing to brag about if you're running for president of the united states of america, i don't think he was just saying it to be bragadocious i think he sincerely believed that (and probably still does).

[sonofdaxjones]

Business Insider 

They'll literally regurgitate what their DC contacts tell them to say.

It was a bunch of "former's" (insert alphabet agency here) who told you derps that Hunter's laptop was a "classic Russian disinformation operation".   The same people that had a total meltdown about Trump having documents are telling us that Car-A-Lago isn't that big of a deal and happens all the time.

I mean 

[catastrophe]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

[sonofdaxjones]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

At least you admit that it was just an opinion.

When are you guys going to learn that the former's of various intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies your favorite media outlets use are professional liars of which many don't like Trump?

Your boy stored classified documents in places that unknown entities in China funded.  Your boy, and lackey Blinky as well as UPenn refuse to disclose specifics about the Chinese donors.  Chinese contributions to UPenn skyrocketed after your boy established his fake job "leadership" center at UPenn. 

How often does an exiting VPOTUS hop on AF2 and fly off to some shitty Eastern European country for a last second visit before departing office?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

He prefers news sources that make up what they say all on their own. No regurgitation.

[DreamWeaver69]

Chum posts shitty tweets from accounts that have like 100 followers as verbatim, but sure.

[sonofdaxjones]

The predecessor to the insane #blueanon movement (numbering in the millions upon millions) never trusted a thing the alphabet national security entities said. 

Now #blueanon tosses their salad all day.

Sad . . .

[catastrophe]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

At least you admit that it was just an opinion.

When are you guys going to learn that the former's of various intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies your favorite media outlets use are professional liars of which many don't like Trump?

Your boy stored classified documents in places that unknown entities in China funded.  Your boy, and lackey Blinky as well as UPenn refuse to disclose specifics about the Chinese donors.  Chinese contributions to UPenn skyrocketed after your boy established his fake job "leadership" center at UPenn. 

How often does an exiting VPOTUS hop on AF2 and fly off to some shitty Eastern European country for a last second visit before departing office?

1. Again, you got the guy's name in the article. If you want to say anything about his biases go ahead.
2. I shared the story in response to MIR's question to provide context on the line of thought that Trump could be motivated to sell state secrets.
3. I'm not going to assume Trump's motivation one way or the other. I trust that the special counsel will do their job and determine if there was any wrongdoing.

[sonofdaxjones]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

At least you admit that it was just an opinion.

When are you guys going to learn that the former's of various intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies your favorite media outlets use are professional liars of which many don't like Trump?

Your boy stored classified documents in places that unknown entities in China funded.  Your boy, and lackey Blinky as well as UPenn refuse to disclose specifics about the Chinese donors.  Chinese contributions to UPenn skyrocketed after your boy established his fake job "leadership" center at UPenn. 

How often does an exiting VPOTUS hop on AF2 and fly off to some shitty Eastern European country for a last second visit before departing office?

1. Again, you got the guy's name in the article. If you want to say anything about his biases go ahead.
2. I shared the story in response to MIR's question to provide context on the line of thought that Trump could be motivated to sell state secrets.
3. I'm not going to assume Trump's motivation one way or the other. I trust that the special counsel will do their job and determine if there was any wrongdoing.

I've already said something about the systemic bias of #blueanon's most favored national security/national intelligence talking heads.

You assumed Trump's motivation by linking that article.

[I_have_purplewood]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

At least you admit that it was just an opinion.

When are you guys going to learn that the former's of various intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies your favorite media outlets use are professional liars of which many don't like Trump?

Your boy stored classified documents in places that unknown entities in China funded.  Your boy, and lackey Blinky as well as UPenn refuse to disclose specifics about the Chinese donors.  Chinese contributions to UPenn skyrocketed after your boy established his fake job "leadership" center at UPenn. 

How often does an exiting VPOTUS hop on AF2 and fly off to some shitty Eastern European country for a last second visit before departing office?

1. Again, you got the guy's name in the article. If you want to say anything about his biases go ahead.
2. I shared the story in response to MIR's question to provide context on the line of thought that Trump could be motivated to sell state secrets.
3. I'm not going to assume Trump's motivation one way or the other. I trust that the special counsel will do their job and determine if there was any wrongdoing.

The special counsel isn't going to do crap.  I would be shocked if they did a thing because all that will do is set a precedence.  No way they will be able to a thing to Trump and not have it affect Biden's outcome regardless of what's in the documents.

[sonofdaxjones]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

At least you admit that it was just an opinion.

When are you guys going to learn that the former's of various intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies your favorite media outlets use are professional liars of which many don't like Trump?

Your boy stored classified documents in places that unknown entities in China funded.  Your boy, and lackey Blinky as well as UPenn refuse to disclose specifics about the Chinese donors.  Chinese contributions to UPenn skyrocketed after your boy established his fake job "leadership" center at UPenn. 

How often does an exiting VPOTUS hop on AF2 and fly off to some shitty Eastern European country for a last second visit before departing office?

1. Again, you got the guy's name in the article. If you want to say anything about his biases go ahead.
2. I shared the story in response to MIR's question to provide context on the line of thought that Trump could be motivated to sell state secrets.
3. I'm not going to assume Trump's motivation one way or the other. I trust that the special counsel will do their job and determine if there was any wrongdoing.

The special counsel isn't going to do crap.  I would be shocked if they did a thing because all that will do is set a precedence.  No way they will be able to a thing to Trump and not have it affect Biden's outcome regardless of what's in the documents.

Agreed, the worst part of this is that it was "discovered" by his Lawyers and then kept under wraps for months. So who knows what else is out there, or what was destroyed.

Apparently those responsible for keeping track of classified documents were wholly unaware that classified documents were missing.  So either they are completely incapable of doing their job, or they were complicit.

[DreamWeaver69]

This crap is hilarious! The left just keeps on making fools of themselves.

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1613564499591585792?s=20&t=H7hkqJA3t29FTlpnfRMs-Q

[sonofdaxjones]

Fully cooperating and turning in the documents after six years and only after getting concerned about that newly elected Sheriff. 

Fantastic 

[Dugout DickStone]

Appointing a trump nominee as a special counsel has to have biden concerned. 

[Woogy]

And/or we classify too much damn stuff.  We don't yet know any particulars of what was on Joe's reading shelf next to his garage barcalounger; but given that the IC didn't care enough and lost track of it and that Archives apparently DNGAF about VP transition in order to catalog anything; likelihood is high that it wasn't overly sensitive and likely more speculative in nature than conclusive.  Saw somewhere in all of this that Biden preferred his material on iPad.  But given those weren't introduced until a year and a half into the Obama admin, and likely not considered "secure" until several years later, there's still a lot of paper briefings he would have been able to toss into a drawer if they weren't immediately recollected following a brief.

[MakeItRain]

Never thought I’d see the day Dax starts source shaming.

Also, they’re literally just writing the impressions/opinions of a former FBI assistant director who spoke on the record. You can always critique the guy’s credentials or bias if you want, but the source is hardly even relevant in this case.

At least you admit that it was just an opinion.

When are you guys going to learn that the former's of various intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies your favorite media outlets use are professional liars of which many don't like Trump?

Your boy stored classified documents in places that unknown entities in China funded.  Your boy, and lackey Blinky as well as UPenn refuse to disclose specifics about the Chinese donors.  Chinese contributions to UPenn skyrocketed after your boy established his fake job "leadership" center at UPenn. 

How often does an exiting VPOTUS hop on AF2 and fly off to some shitty Eastern European country for a last second visit before departing office?

1. Again, you got the guy's name in the article. If you want to say anything about his biases go ahead.
2. I shared the story in response to MIR's question to provide context on the line of thought that Trump could be motivated to sell state secrets.
3. I'm not going to assume Trump's motivation one way or the other. I trust that the special counsel will do their job and determine if there was any wrongdoing.

The special counsel isn't going to do crap.  I would be shocked if they did a thing because all that will do is set a precedence.  No way they will be able to a thing to Trump and not have it affect Biden's outcome regardless of what's in the documents.

Yeah, I don't know about all of that. Trump blew up any precedence with the obstruction and lying. If it's proven that Biden and his team perjured themselves, obstructed justice, defied orders then yeah you'll have a point. Right now the only thing these cases have in common is mishandling of classified materials, which is a big deal. However, the trump team has seemingly committed more crimes, we don't know, yet, if Biden's team did the same.

[DreamWeaver69]

 

[Woogy]

This crap is hilarious! The left just keeps on making fools of themselves.

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1613564499591585792?s=20&t=H7hkqJA3t29FTlpnfRMs-Q

Funny he uses the "stuffing into his pockets" analogy (Sandy Berger).  Also, Archives and IC knew what Trump had - the whole thing was about whether he should have it in his immediate possession.

[sonofdaxjones]

This crap is hilarious! The left just keeps on making fools of themselves.

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1613564499591585792?s=20&t=H7hkqJA3t29FTlpnfRMs-Q

Funny he uses the "stuffing into his pockets" analogy (Sandy Berger).  Also, Archives and IC knew what Trump had - the whole thing was about whether he should have it in his immediate possession.

    

[Dugout DickStone]

Obama should announce he de-classified that crap by thinking about it to be an even bigger boss than he already is