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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #125 on: October 23, 2020, 12:12:48 PM »
What % of birds just die from being an old bird or do no birds get to be old because of this cat scourge?

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #126 on: October 23, 2020, 12:20:02 PM »
I kill about 100 birds with a shotgun every year, how many cats worth is that?
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #127 on: October 23, 2020, 12:22:35 PM »
I had no idea there were so many total birds that cats alone could kill that many and it not be a big deal.

I think it is a big deal for some kinds of birds according to bird people.

Gonna see what christian cooper has to say about this issue.
I saw that graphic on twitter lastnight and was blown away.  There are apparently a shitload of birds out there!  Over 3 BILLION die in the US every year!  WTF?  Feels like maybe we should be killing more birds if there are that many birds already?

birds seem much better for ecosystems than domestic cats (other than for controlling rodent populations)

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #128 on: October 23, 2020, 12:23:07 PM »
I kill about 100 birds with a shotgun every year, how many cats worth is that?

apparently like 1/100 of one cat based on this giant cat body bag figure.

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #129 on: October 23, 2020, 12:29:39 PM »
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #130 on: October 23, 2020, 12:33:36 PM »
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #131 on: October 23, 2020, 12:35:08 PM »
It's cf, band, y man

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #132 on: October 23, 2020, 12:37:17 PM »
You can't listen to Dax about energy - he thinks hydrogen-powered cars and not EVs are going to be the next big thing. cfbandyman, have you heard about this energy storage solution in England?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx_bJgIFhI[/youtube]

Obviously - you can't do it everywhere, but it's still really cool.

Yes, I seen two docs on that facility, they're pretty fascinating, but overall I don't think a great solution, if anything because you lose energy for storing it, but it would be a great backstop solution for certain applications 
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #133 on: October 23, 2020, 12:42:59 PM »
Lol, dax with the "they'll never build enough!" as if more energy falls on the earth in one second than we use in an entire year, yeah, we'll never build enough wind-solar-battery

What a positively stupid post.

You have literally nothing to rebuttal with, lol,. I work in the industry brah, it's happeningh, let it go, take the ball somewhere else when you grow up.
Pfft, you have to build the systems to capture it, you have to build the systems to distribute it, the sun doesn’t shine 24 hours a day, the wind doesn’t blow every day.  Storage, huge problem.

There’s a reason Angie Merkel wants that 2nd pipeline, there’s a reason the Chinese will build hundreds of new coal power plants

ChiCom Joe is already walking back what he said. It’s now subsidies says ChiCom Joe.  Subsidies for traditional energy have been falling for years.  The befuddled old man was getting tired and wanted to go to bed last night.

Coal and natural gas plants trip offline all the time and you don't notice that either, it's almost like there are tons of interconnected plants generating all the time, and storage, is coming, quick, like really quick. Dear god we have to build storage, at breakneck pace we already are, and continuing to do so.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

All of which will be built on the back of fossil fuel.   

That still doesn't change the harsh reality that green energy cannot keep up, and thus this is why (for example) the headlines read "Germany's green energy shift is more fizzle than sizzle".    German's paid more and more for their energy needs, while Germany itself was a green energy fraud, failing repeatedly to meet EU emissions mandates.   The German consumers were paying out the ass to reach goals that were being missed by miles.   Thus, not 1, but 2 natural gas pipelines from Vlad Putin. 

Trey . . . in terms of heavy vehicles, Hydrogen Power is the best alternative.   By far.

Germany's big problem was deciding to turn off their nukes before their coal.

And built off the back of fossil is cute, yes, for now, and only because it's exists, as if you can change things overnight on a power grid stitched together over 100 years
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #134 on: October 23, 2020, 12:44:06 PM »
In your heads do you guys pronounce it CF bandyman or CFB andyman?

it's the later when I made it for my espn account like 15 years ago, but I honestly never think about it, it's whatever you all want it to be 
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #135 on: October 23, 2020, 12:48:46 PM »
I always think "handyman"

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #136 on: October 23, 2020, 01:11:56 PM »
I had no idea there were so many total birds that cats alone could kill that many and it not be a big deal.

I think it is a big deal for some kinds of birds according to bird people.

Gonna see what christian cooper has to say about this issue.
I saw that graphic on twitter lastnight and was blown away.  There are apparently a shitload of birds out there!  Over 3 BILLION die in the US every year!  WTF?  Feels like maybe we should be killing more birds if there are that many birds already?

Exactly. For every person in america, 10 birds die every year? Where are all these living birds?
I guess if you consider that a shitload of birds live in like forests and fields and stuff without any people it starts to make some sense.


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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #137 on: October 23, 2020, 01:15:23 PM »
imagine if all those birds were ostriches. lmao

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #138 on: October 23, 2020, 01:38:33 PM »
imagine if all those birds were ostriches. lmao

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #139 on: October 23, 2020, 01:46:16 PM »
That game is featured quite prominently in ready player one (book)
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #140 on: October 23, 2020, 02:05:00 PM »
Any time I see a shitload of birds, it's in an area full of an even larger shitload of people of which a deranged one is tossing bread or whatever to make the birds gather.

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« Reply #141 on: October 23, 2020, 02:53:37 PM »
i didn't see much of the debate last night.  how much of it was devoted to talking about how many damn birds there are in this country? 


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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #142 on: October 23, 2020, 02:56:13 PM »
Cats are gonna kill another 100 or so tomorrow.  :lynchmob:

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #143 on: October 23, 2020, 03:18:30 PM »
In your heads do you guys pronounce it CF bandyman or CFB andyman?

it's the later when I made it for my espn account like 15 years ago, but I honestly never think about it, it's whatever you all want it to be

Hmm, the more you know. I always gave you an extra c CFB Candyman.

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #144 on: October 23, 2020, 03:19:56 PM »
Cats are gonna kill another 100 or so tomorrow.  :lynchmob:

 :lol: how many fake birds get killed in America every year? If the cyclones kill the jaykawks do those count as birds killed by wind?

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #145 on: October 23, 2020, 03:47:20 PM »
That game is featured quite prominently in ready player one (book)
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« Reply #146 on: October 23, 2020, 04:02:44 PM »
Cats are gonna kill another 100 or so tomorrow.  :lynchmob:

 :lol: how many fake birds get killed in America every year? If the cyclones kill the jaykawks do those count as birds killed by wind?

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« Reply #147 on: October 23, 2020, 04:34:27 PM »
TIL that cats are incredibly efficient, completely savage, bird killing machines.  Man, what happens if we run out of birds, will the cats turn on humans???   :ohno:

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« Reply #148 on: October 23, 2020, 04:37:03 PM »
Cats bring dead birds because they think humans are too stupid to feed themselves.  They'll just convert to dead mice or some other small critters.

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #149 on: October 23, 2020, 05:45:43 PM »
I had no idea there were so many total birds that cats alone could kill that many and it not be a big deal.

it kinda is a big deal.
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