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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #100 on: October 23, 2020, 10:28:55 AM »
We need more of the  Solyndra model (Biden Voter)

Give us more Solar City! (Biden Voter).

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« Reply #101 on: October 23, 2020, 10:29:36 AM »
Dax hot take =  We only have a system to distribute fossil fuel made power.
Not even close.

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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #102 on: October 23, 2020, 10:30:14 AM »
Lol, 20-year-old on cnn’s undecided voter panel says he’ll vote biden if barrett is confirmed as that cover his pro-life issue and trump sucks at everything else.

dlew!
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dlew is probably 40 by now, but whatever.
I'm 43 actually.


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« Reply #103 on: October 23, 2020, 10:32:33 AM »
It’s ~11:30PM on a Thursday night. Dude has kids in college. Presumably late 40’s, is up and active. Arguing about stuff that happened 4-12 years ago. I mean LOL

Significantly older than late 40s.
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #104 on: October 23, 2020, 10:32:51 AM »
Dax hot take =  We only have a system to distribute fossil fuel made power.
Not even close.

you have to build the systems to distribute it

 :dunno:

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« Reply #105 on: October 23, 2020, 10:33:27 AM »
For all the handwringing about Dax, a lot some of you devote a lot of time talking to/about him.


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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #106 on: October 23, 2020, 10:38:59 AM »
I would like to see an infographic comparing how many windmills equals the bird-killing power of one Trump tower.

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« Reply #107 on: October 23, 2020, 10:42:12 AM »
The newest 5 year plan in China appears to be all set to increase coal power plant production and will likely reduce permitting roadblocks for their construction and operation.

The central committee views capital projects such as coal plants as a stimulus to offset the impact of the virus.  Even in an an overcapacity state, China will build the plants as a means to keep providing cheap electrical capacity to industry.  This cheap energy resource is a key component of China 2025. 

They will plow major dollars into supporting the Green New Deal in the US.   

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« Reply #108 on: October 23, 2020, 10:50:08 AM »
Dax hot take =  We only have a system to distribute fossil fuel made power.
Not even close.

you have to build the systems to distribute it

 :dunno:
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #109 on: October 23, 2020, 11:01:41 AM »
I had no idea there were so many total birds that cats alone could kill that many and it not be a big deal.

I think it is a big deal for some kinds of birds according to bird people.

Gonna see what christian cooper has to say about this issue.

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« Reply #110 on: October 23, 2020, 11:20:16 AM »
That chart made my day.

Why I love the wildlife one, it's the most bodybad thing, wanna save birds, kill all the cats.
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« Reply #111 on: October 23, 2020, 11:21:35 AM »
LOL, I’m an engineer!! Says CF

It shows how little you fail to grasp how it all works
Dax hot take =  We only have a system to distribute fossil fuel made power.
Not even close.

you have to build the systems to distribute it

 :dunno:

It's like we don't have this grid (3 of them) to move power across the country
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« Reply #112 on: October 23, 2020, 11:25:26 AM »
Lol, dax with the "they'll never build enough!" as if more energy falls on the earth in one second than we use in an entire year, yeah, we'll never build enough wind-solar-battery

What a positively stupid post.

You have literally nothing to rebuttal with, lol,. I work in the industry brah, it's happeningh, let it go, take the ball somewhere else when you grow up.
Pfft, you have to build the systems to capture it, you have to build the systems to distribute it, the sun doesn’t shine 24 hours a day, the wind doesn’t blow every day.  Storage, huge problem.

There’s a reason Angie Merkel wants that 2nd pipeline, there’s a reason the Chinese will build hundreds of new coal power plants

ChiCom Joe is already walking back what he said. It’s now subsidies says ChiCom Joe.  Subsidies for traditional energy have been falling for years.  The befuddled old man was getting tired and wanted to go to bed last night.

Coal and natural gas plants trip offline all the time and you don't notice that either, it's almost like there are tons of interconnected plants generating all the time, and storage, is coming, quick, like really quick. Dear god we have to build storage, at breakneck pace we already are, and continuing to do so.
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #113 on: October 23, 2020, 11:30:29 AM »
You can't listen to Dax about energy - he thinks hydrogen-powered cars and not EVs are going to be the next big thing. cfbandyman, have you heard about this energy storage solution in England?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx_bJgIFhI[/youtube]

Obviously - you can't do it everywhere, but it's still really cool.

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« Reply #114 on: October 23, 2020, 11:35:22 AM »
That chart made my day.

Why I love the wildlife one, it's the most bodybad thing, wanna save birds, kill all the cats.
Is there a cat cause of death chart?

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« Reply #115 on: October 23, 2020, 11:38:39 AM »
For all the handwringing about Dax, a lot some of you devote a lot of time talking to/about him.


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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #116 on: October 23, 2020, 11:43:29 AM »
I had no idea there were so many total birds that cats alone could kill that many and it not be a big deal.

I think it is a big deal for some kinds of birds according to bird people.

Gonna see what christian cooper has to say about this issue.
I saw that graphic on twitter lastnight and was blown away.  There are apparently a shitload of birds out there!  Over 3 BILLION die in the US every year!  WTF?  Feels like maybe we should be killing more birds if there are that many birds already?


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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #117 on: October 23, 2020, 11:50:53 AM »
Lol, dax with the "they'll never build enough!" as if more energy falls on the earth in one second than we use in an entire year, yeah, we'll never build enough wind-solar-battery

What a positively stupid post.

You have literally nothing to rebuttal with, lol,. I work in the industry brah, it's happeningh, let it go, take the ball somewhere else when you grow up.
Pfft, you have to build the systems to capture it, you have to build the systems to distribute it, the sun doesn’t shine 24 hours a day, the wind doesn’t blow every day.  Storage, huge problem.

There’s a reason Angie Merkel wants that 2nd pipeline, there’s a reason the Chinese will build hundreds of new coal power plants

ChiCom Joe is already walking back what he said. It’s now subsidies says ChiCom Joe.  Subsidies for traditional energy have been falling for years.  The befuddled old man was getting tired and wanted to go to bed last night.

Coal and natural gas plants trip offline all the time and you don't notice that either, it's almost like there are tons of interconnected plants generating all the time, and storage, is coming, quick, like really quick. Dear god we have to build storage, at breakneck pace we already are, and continuing to do so.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

All of which will be built on the back of fossil fuel.   

That still doesn't change the harsh reality that green energy cannot keep up, and thus this is why (for example) the headlines read "Germany's green energy shift is more fizzle than sizzle".    German's paid more and more for their energy needs, while Germany itself was a green energy fraud, failing repeatedly to meet EU emissions mandates.   The German consumers were paying out the ass to reach goals that were being missed by miles.   Thus, not 1, but 2 natural gas pipelines from Vlad Putin. 

Trey . . . in terms of heavy vehicles, Hydrogen Power is the best alternative.   By far.









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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #118 on: October 23, 2020, 11:51:59 AM »
Intellectually incapable and highly enraged poster now left with nothing by spell checking and type-o's on a message board.

Appropriate and fitting.

I don’t mean to be negative, but I think you mean typos.
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Re: 10/22 debate thread
« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2020, 11:52:14 AM »
I had no idea there were so many total birds that cats alone could kill that many and it not be a big deal.

I think it is a big deal for some kinds of birds according to bird people.

Gonna see what christian cooper has to say about this issue.
I saw that graphic on twitter lastnight and was blown away.  There are apparently a shitload of birds out there!  Over 3 BILLION die in the US every year!  WTF?  Feels like maybe we should be killing more birds if there are that many birds already?

birds seem much better for ecosystems than domestic cats (other than for controlling rodent populations)

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« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2020, 11:53:25 AM »
Intellectually incapable and highly enraged poster now left with nothing by spell checking and type-o's on a message board.

Appropriate and fitting.

I don’t mean to be negative, but I think you mean typos.

Maybe he's a Peter Steele fan?
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #121 on: October 23, 2020, 11:53:47 AM »
Intellectually incapable and highly enraged poster now left with nothing by spell checking and type-o's on a message board.

Appropriate and fitting.

I don’t mean to be negative, but I think you mean typos.

Thanks stalker

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« Reply #122 on: October 23, 2020, 11:58:11 AM »
I had no idea there were so many total birds that cats alone could kill that many and it not be a big deal.

I think it is a big deal for some kinds of birds according to bird people.

Gonna see what christian cooper has to say about this issue.
I saw that graphic on twitter lastnight and was blown away.  There are apparently a shitload of birds out there!  Over 3 BILLION die in the US every year!  WTF?  Feels like maybe we should be killing more birds if there are that many birds already?

Exactly. For every person in america, 10 birds die every year? Where are all these living birds?

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« Reply #123 on: October 23, 2020, 12:00:40 PM »
Didn't know that birds dying was both a problem and not a problem at all.

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« Reply #124 on: October 23, 2020, 12:09:49 PM »
In your heads do you guys pronounce it CF bandyman or CFB andyman?