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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #900 on: August 23, 2022, 08:19:37 AM »
You guys think Liz is USA/Never Trump enough to run, split the conservative vote, and hand the job to a non-trump guy?

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #901 on: August 23, 2022, 08:31:39 AM »
You guys think Liz is USA/Never Trump enough to run, split the conservative vote, and hand the job to a non-trump guy?

Maybe, but I think it's more likely she runs in the GOP primary and attempts to take advantage of the crazies being split between Trump and DeSantis.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #902 on: August 23, 2022, 09:29:56 AM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives
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« Reply #903 on: August 23, 2022, 09:42:39 AM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

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« Reply #904 on: August 23, 2022, 09:45:41 AM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

Both but more maga obviously.
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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #905 on: August 23, 2022, 09:58:17 AM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

You should probably abandon any hope that these are different things.
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« Reply #906 on: August 23, 2022, 10:13:41 AM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

Both but more maga obviously.

What do you dislike about her Purplewood?  She's super conservative.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #907 on: August 23, 2022, 10:37:09 AM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

You should probably abandon any hope that these are different things.

I’ll stand corrected and eat crow if Trump wins the republican nomination but I don’t think there is 100% overlap
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« Reply #908 on: August 23, 2022, 10:51:42 AM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

You should probably abandon any hope that these are different things.

I’ll stand corrected and eat crow if Trump wins the republican nomination but I don’t think there is 100% overlap

DeSantis isn't really much better.

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« Reply #909 on: August 23, 2022, 12:31:45 PM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

Both but more maga obviously.

What do you dislike about her Purplewood?  She's super conservative.

I never said I dislike her?  She actually doesn't bother me all that much truth be told.  I like that she's pro military but never really followed what she did in congress because, why would I?  I can appreciate her disdain for Trump but I think it consumed her. 
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #910 on: August 23, 2022, 12:32:48 PM »
She's extremely unpopular with conservatives

With conservatives or Trump supporters?

You should probably abandon any hope that these are different things.

Clueless as ever I see.
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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« Reply #911 on: August 23, 2022, 12:40:16 PM »
If you judge solely on how people vote, there is almost no difference between MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans.

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« Reply #912 on: August 23, 2022, 12:56:24 PM »
If you judge solely on how people vote, there is almost no difference between MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans.

So it wasn't partisan before Trump got elected?
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #913 on: August 23, 2022, 01:05:21 PM »
Anyone who does not swear fealty to trump is excommunicated from the party. You have to be an absolute moron to think Trump and trumpism are not the mainstream thought leaders (to borrow a phrase from dax) of the conservative movement.

Holding on to that miniscule percentage of non-trump conservatives is folly.
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« Reply #914 on: August 23, 2022, 01:09:07 PM »
If you judge solely on how people vote, there is almost no difference between MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans.

So it wasn't partisan before Trump got elected?

Why should we care that any Republicans say they hate MAGA if they just vote MAGA anyway? What's the point?

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« Reply #915 on: August 23, 2022, 01:10:27 PM »
Anyone who does not swear fealty to trump is excommunicated from the party. You have to be an absolute moron to think Trump and trumpism are not the mainstream thought leaders (to borrow a phrase from dax) of the conservative movement.

Holding on to that miniscule percentage of non-trump conservatives is folly.

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Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #916 on: August 23, 2022, 01:26:17 PM »
I think Liz's career as a national, elected politician is shot, at least for the foreseeable future. But what she's doing is writing a letter to the future in the hopes that someday, other Republicans will realize there's a way to save the party. Long term, Trumpism will destroy it, otherwise.

In terms of policy, I echo the above sentiments that she's about as hardcore of a conservative as they come. Outside of her willingness to stand up to Trump specifically and only related to his election fuckery (and therefore lose her job), she and I diverge on a lot of issues.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #918 on: August 23, 2022, 01:34:08 PM »
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David Farnsworth, made an unusual pitch to voters: the 2020 presidential election had not only been stolen from Trump, he said, it was satanically snatched by the “devil himself”.


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Bowers resoundingly killed off that bill by sending it to languish not in just one house committee, but in all 12 of them. “I was trying to send a definitive message: this is hogwash. Taking away the fundamental right to vote, the idea that the legislature could nullify your election, that’s not conservative. That’s fascist. And I’m not a fascist.”

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #919 on: August 23, 2022, 01:59:46 PM »
If you judge solely on how people vote, there is almost no difference between MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans.

So it wasn't partisan before Trump got elected?

Why should we care that any Republicans say they hate MAGA if they just vote MAGA anyway? What's the point?

If they vote Maga anyway?  What does that mean exactly?  If they vote for a Maga clone they are Maga?  The answer to that is obvious but there are plenty of conservatives that want to break away from that to Spracs point.
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #920 on: August 23, 2022, 02:29:05 PM »
If you judge solely on how people vote, there is almost no difference between MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans.

So it wasn't partisan before Trump got elected?

Why should we care that any Republicans say they hate MAGA if they just vote MAGA anyway? What's the point?

If they vote Maga anyway?  What does that mean exactly?  If they vote for a Maga clone they are Maga?  The answer to that is obvious but there are plenty of conservatives that want to break away from that to Spracs point.

If they don't vote against it (or at least refrain from voting for it), are they really against it?

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« Reply #921 on: August 23, 2022, 04:00:21 PM »
It's amazing stretch to imply that Liz Cheney was openly embraced by #blueanon political and thought leadership only because of the 2020 election claims.

Anyone who believes that was the only reason she became a #blueanon icon is an absolute derp in every regard.


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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #922 on: August 23, 2022, 07:35:26 PM »
enlighten us

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« Reply #923 on: August 23, 2022, 08:45:00 PM »
One example, she opposed Trump on pulling U.S. troops out of Syria.  As I recall, #blueanongE/#neocongE lost their mind over that as well.  Wanting desperately (like huge derps) to see the U.S. go to war with Turkey (a NATO ally) to stop Turkey's incursion into Syria. 

What has the Biden administration done about Turkey's incursion into Syria? Nothing, absolutely nothing. 


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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #924 on: August 23, 2022, 09:02:50 PM »
enlighten us

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