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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #225 on: August 23, 2024, 08:00:34 AM »
Job growth? Or the #blueanon wonk state?




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1. If I have 1000 students and add 100, and 2 administrative staff and add 2 more, which grew at a higher percentage?
2. Are schools now hiring multiple principles and vice principles to see 39% growth? Or, are we adding more schools?

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #226 on: August 23, 2024, 10:30:58 AM »
probably full time v. part time and he's directionally correct you think?

That's exactly what it is. 12% of the population is on full time poverty, but 70% has days where their job sends them to some podunk town for a meeting and the Holiday Inn is full so they end up staying in some motel in poverty for the night.

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #227 on: August 23, 2024, 11:33:20 AM »
Job growth? Or the #blueanon wonk state?




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1. If I have 1000 students and add 100, and 2 administrative staff and add 2 more, which grew at a higher percentage?
2. Are schools now hiring multiple principles and vice principles to see 39% growth? Or, are we adding more schools?

I don't know, it wasn't a rhetorical question.

During the current crap show administration, GDP growth is entirely fueled by all time record government spending and job growth sectors are exclusively government or highly government subsidized sectors.


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #228 on: August 23, 2024, 12:17:04 PM »
there seem to be around 1 million Administrative jobs in the US at present

if you were to attribute every one of those jobs to the democratic job growth it would represent 2% of job growth under Democratic presidents

however that same number would equal 100% of job growth under the last three pubs...

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #229 on: August 23, 2024, 12:54:53 PM »
That's a typical Lick hyper partisan response and absolutely expected.

No where did I mention or state any differences between Republican or Democratic POTUS administrations.

I attributed it purely to the #blueanon wonk state.  I think even you can admit that the majority of education is dominated by #blueanon

The numbers during the current presidency don't lie.  Job "growth" is government, subsidized sectors and part time.  GDP growth almost wholly attributed to government spending.




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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #230 on: August 23, 2024, 01:06:18 PM »
that makes perfect sense

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #231 on: August 23, 2024, 01:23:17 PM »
Tapout accepted

Lick, you can't take credit for job growth in an hyper administrative government subsidized environment aka the administrative state, which rarely if ever stops expanding.

It's makes absolutely perfect sense, which is why you tapped out.

You'll find similar charts all across related  sectors.


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #232 on: August 23, 2024, 01:36:31 PM »
So you are arguing that Dems have added around 48 million government jobs?

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #233 on: August 23, 2024, 01:37:03 PM »
I didn't specify a party, Lick. Why is this so hard for you?


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #234 on: August 23, 2024, 01:38:54 PM »
party aside

There are roughly 24 million people employed by government entities from municipal through federal government.


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #235 on: August 23, 2024, 02:50:33 PM »
Job growth? Or the #blueanon wonk state?




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Do people know what Administrative jobs are? The breakdown in the graph should give you a clue to figuring it out.

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #236 on: August 23, 2024, 08:31:51 PM »
So if we deduct every government job in the US and every administrative position within education from the democratic job creation totals they are still outpacing Pub growth 25-1...

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #237 on: August 23, 2024, 09:14:42 PM »
So if we deduct every government job in the US and every administrative position within education from the democratic job creation totals they are still outpacing Pub growth 25-1...

You're fighting a battle against someone that doesn't care about math. math is fake, first of all. and the people doing the math are political plants, secondly.

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #238 on: August 23, 2024, 09:26:02 PM »
I know.

I just wanted to see where he tries to take this next.

Gone are the days where he would get embarrassed and take a break.


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #239 on: August 23, 2024, 09:27:19 PM »
I know.

I just wanted to see where he tries to take this next.

Gone are the days where he would get embarrassed and take a break.

his stamina is more than yours

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #240 on: August 23, 2024, 09:41:22 PM »
Job growth? Or the #blueanon wonk state?




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Do people know what Administrative jobs are? The breakdown in the graph should give you a clue to figuring it out.

I believe administrative jobs are administrative jobs. 

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #241 on: August 23, 2024, 11:14:13 PM »
I’m talking to people who only care about political parties, when I’m not even breaking his down by party.

You guys are terrified to talk about job creation when it comes to breaking it down by public sector, highly government subsidized entities and part time jobs.


The “doesn’t care about math” narrative from a dude who tries to explain away every cooking of the books by the government (applies to Dem administrations only) is just rough ridin' classic.


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #242 on: August 23, 2024, 11:37:02 PM »
I’m talking to people who only care about political parties, when I’m not even breaking his down by party.

You guys are terrified to talk about job creation when it comes to breaking it down by public sector, highly government subsidized entities and part time jobs.


The “doesn’t care about math” narrative from a dude who tries to explain away every cooking of the books by the government (applies to Dem administrations only) is just rough ridin' classic.


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makes sense


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #243 on: August 23, 2024, 11:44:22 PM »
Tap outs at every turn

Imagine trying to explain away the overstatement of nearly a million jobs that never actually existed.

(Not to mention near all time record high part time job holders and the loss of nearly a million full time jobs in the last year)


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #244 on: August 24, 2024, 10:11:45 AM »
I’m talking to people who only care about political parties, when I’m not even breaking his down by party.

You guys are terrified to talk about job creation when it comes to breaking it down by public sector, highly government subsidized entities and part time jobs.


The “doesn’t care about math” narrative from a dude who tries to explain away every cooking of the books by the government (applies to Dem administrations only) is just rough ridin' classic.


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #245 on: August 24, 2024, 02:04:34 PM »
I’m talking to people who only care about political parties, when I’m not even breaking his down by party.

You guys are terrified to talk about job creation when it comes to breaking it down by public sector, highly government subsidized entities and part time jobs.


The “doesn’t care about math” narrative from a dude who tries to explain away every cooking of the books by the government (applies to Dem administrations only) is just rough ridin' classic.


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Wasn't he stating he wasn't talking about political parties previously?
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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #246 on: August 27, 2024, 12:29:52 PM »
when your party baloons the national debt and can't grow jobs you gotta do something to detract from the facts

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #247 on: August 28, 2024, 05:51:32 AM »
Job growth? Or the #blueanon wonk state?




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Do people know what Administrative jobs are? The breakdown in the graph should give you a clue to figuring it out.

I believe administrative jobs are administrative jobs.
Does that include paraprofessionals? Not clear to me what would be included in administrative staff. It isn’t administrators- there is a separate category for principals and assistant principals. Is the claim here that is all superintendents and central office types? I’d be interested to know.


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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #248 on: August 28, 2024, 09:22:55 AM »
I believe that this is a reflection of administration support staff such as teaching and learning, curriculum development, and technology integration type roles.

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Re: Economics Of The Election
« Reply #249 on: August 29, 2024, 08:55:33 AM »