Dark horse

[Dr Rick Daris]

Is everyone calling kstate a dark horse to win the big 12 and deuce Vaughn a dark horse to win the heisman using that as some kind of code word or whatever to not take kstate seriously. Like “lol I know they aren’t good and the school is a joke but they could actually win a few games this year before they go back to sucking!”

I’m just curious becasue I need to know whether I should be pissed about that kind of talk or not. Leaning towards pissed.

[star seed 7]

I believe a few years ago the ksu cats were labeled as "the darkest horse of them all" and we won a Dr pepper and had the runner up in the Heisman

[MadCat]

I think pissed is appropriate:

The term began as horse racing parlance for a race horse that is unknown to gamblers and thus difficult to place betting odds on.

The uncultured swine of sports media don't bother to learn about the teams that don't get put on TV sets on the reg.

[tdaver]

They know we’re good but they can’t bring themselves to actually vote for us because they still view us as little ol’ KSU.  Dark horse label is how they cover their asses and say “I told you they would be good!”.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I believe a few years ago the ksu cats were labeled as "the darkest horse of them all" and we won a Dr pepper and had the runner up in the Heisman

Yeah, we were "the darkest horse of them all" after returning just about everyone from an 10 win team. 2012 would have been the year to feel disrespected. This season we shouldn't be 2012 good but have a decent shot at winning the Big 12 because it's hard to point to any team that is going to be great. I think dark horse kind of fits here.

[cfbandyman]

I believe a few years ago the ksu cats were labeled as "the darkest horse of them all" and we won a Dr pepper and had the runner up in the Heisman

Yeah, we were "the darkest horse of them all" after returning just about everyone from an 10 win team. 2012 would have been the year to feel disrespected. This season we shouldn't be 2012 good but have a decent shot at winning the Big 12 because it's hard to point to any team that is going to be great. I think dark horse kind of fits here.

Yeah, how I feel, no team in the Big 12 is scary good, showing up will matter

[stunted]

there isn't many weaknesses position-wise. wide receivers and safety - but receivers should at least be average, they all have a lot of experience and skylar completed 70% to these guys. and for safety, word is kobe savage might be one of the best players on defense. this season could be special

[MakeItRain]

It absolutely is an insult because if we go 8-5 they'll treat us like Iowa State and they've been losers our entire lifetimes. This team and staff should catch crap for going 8-5 this year.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, I'm going to be disappointed with fewer than 10 wins.

[nicname]

The regional and national media, and casual cfb fans likening ISU to us is infuriating. They’ve never been on our level athletically for an extended period of time.

[KCFDcat]

It absolutely is an insult because if we go 8-5 they'll treat us like Iowa State and they've been losers our entire lifetimes. This team and staff should catch crap for going 8-5 this year.

Yep, if it's another 8-5 season that means that's about Klieman's ceiling. Not saying we should look to find another coach, but just get used to being a perpetual 6-6 to 8-5 team every year.

[cfbandyman]

It absolutely is an insult because if we go 8-5 they'll treat us like Iowa State and they've been losers our entire lifetimes. This team and staff should catch crap for going 8-5 this year.

Yep, if it's another 8-5 season that means that's about Klieman's ceiling. Not saying we should look to find another coach, but just get used to being a perpetual 6-6 to 8-5 team every year.

8-5 will be disappointing given the talent and relative difficulty of schedule, and I would definitely think the coaches shoulder that.

Of course I want us to do better but a 9-3 with a bowl win would feel good, and feel like progress in the right direction, we've basically proven we're 8 wins good program anyways. That being said I think this team should be more like eyeing being 10-2 and heading to Dallas for a Pepper. If things really fall in well, then we can dream bigger.

[stunted]

How tf Vegas has us at 6.5 wins?!

[catastrophe]

It absolutely is an insult because if we go 8-5 they'll treat us like Iowa State and they've been losers our entire lifetimes. This team and staff should catch crap for going 8-5 this year.

Well said.

[catastrophe]

How tf Vegas has us at 6.5 wins?!

How much you betting?

[OK_Cat]

If we win more than 8 games (bowl doesn’t count) then I’ll delete my goEMAW account


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[nicname]

Winning 10 games in year 4 of Klieman while Campbell fades into Bolivian never having more than sniffed 10 wins. 

[stunted]

How tf Vegas has us at 6.5 wins?!

How much you betting?

i would bet the farm but i'd rather bet on bitcoin for this long term bet.

[cfbandyman]

Winning 10 games in year 4 of Klieman while Campbell fades into Bolivian never having more than sniffed 10 wins.

 

[Winters]

How tf Vegas has us at 6.5 wins?!

How much you betting?

Saw it was -160

[Dugout DickStone]

You should be enraged and absolutely go ape crap on anyone who uses this term.  If you don’t comatize at least one of these total dick necks you probably aren’t a cats fan tbh

[mocat]

If we win more than 8 games (bowl doesn’t count) then I’ll delete my goEMAW account


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9 wins before bowl szn would be really great for me and my fandom