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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #275 on: July 01, 2020, 10:16:34 AM »
Also word of the day is ombudsman.

ombudsperson, ombud, or public advocate is an official who is charged with representing the interests of the public by investigating and addressing complaints of mal-administration or a violation of rights.
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« Reply #276 on: July 01, 2020, 11:17:34 AM »
ESPN.com used to have a monthly or quarterly piece written by the ombudsman.  That's where I learned that word.
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« Reply #277 on: July 01, 2020, 11:23:53 AM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66089

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #278 on: July 01, 2020, 11:25:08 AM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66089

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?
Yes, unfortunately. K-State Sports will be the next athletic department to probably have to make some stupid confederate flag rule or something.


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #279 on: July 01, 2020, 11:33:21 AM »
ESPN.com used to have a monthly or quarterly piece written by the ombudsman.  That's where I learned that word.

Same, I actually really enjoyed reading ombudsman pieces, cause it was obviously very frank clearly and inside view of something at ESPN from an outside person's perspective
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #280 on: July 01, 2020, 11:36:49 AM »
Google/search lexis/nexis for "first amendment retaliation".

Obviously there are no cases exactly like this one, but the law is clear as is the possibility, if not likelihood, of damages in the millions of dollars.

Given KState's size and the stupidity it would take for University to take any actions to remove this guy, the damages would likely be huge - as the point is to make it painful.  KState could easily manage a low seven-figure claim.

And no, the University cannot start digging into the guys past as that would simply support the idea that they are retaliating because of the tweet.

The good things is that the President and University counsel know this and are looking at other ways to address the situation.
Fair enough.  Given the prospect of punitives I'd say they made the right move.


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #281 on: July 01, 2020, 12:10:18 PM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66089

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?

Maybe we get lucky and they get rid of the "ceremony of allegiance" and the anthem, and just focus on it being entertainment, like a play or musical at McCain Auditorium or Nichols Hall? :dunno:

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #282 on: July 01, 2020, 12:16:16 PM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66089

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?

Maybe we get lucky and they get rid of the "ceremony of allegiance" and the anthem, and just focus on it being entertainment, like a play or musical at McCain Auditorium or Nichols Hall? :dunno:

Get rid of the US flag too.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #283 on: July 01, 2020, 12:21:00 PM »
when's the last time k-state.edu was updated? good grief

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #284 on: July 01, 2020, 01:04:11 PM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66089

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?

I think Kansans will be too ashamed to boo that. definitely lots of stern arm folding though, kansans just aren't an outspoken bunch when it comes to things like this.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #285 on: July 01, 2020, 01:05:35 PM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66089

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?

I think Kansans will be too ashamed to boo that. definitely lots of stern arm folding though, kansans just aren't an outspoken bunch when it comes to things like this.

Yes good point
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #286 on: July 01, 2020, 01:10:01 PM »
(I'll acknowledge this could just be wishful thinking, but imagine booing someone saying "black lives matter")

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #287 on: July 01, 2020, 01:19:07 PM »
I can def hear the grumbling throughout the stadium, though. I don’t think it would last for a whole season though. Most people resistant to the phrase Black Lives Matter haven’t put much time into trying to understand it.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #288 on: July 01, 2020, 01:35:47 PM »
We're an ag school, fellas. There's going to be some herp a derps set in their own racist ways out there. It sucks, but at least we're making strides.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #289 on: July 01, 2020, 01:37:50 PM »
We're an ag school, fellas. There's going to be some herp a derps set in their own racist ways out there. It sucks, but at least we're making strides.
Yes and if the herp derps yell derogatory racist things you bet I’m yelling at those damned people to stfu and to leave the racist comments at home with their cousins


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #290 on: July 01, 2020, 01:38:52 PM »
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #291 on: July 01, 2020, 01:39:54 PM »
Yes, Greg we get it
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #292 on: July 01, 2020, 01:40:41 PM »
Yes, Greg we get it
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #293 on: July 01, 2020, 02:05:03 PM »
I think This is the first time in my 20 years of being a karate fan that I’m pretty happy with AD and admin response to something important important


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #294 on: July 01, 2020, 02:14:56 PM »
I think This is the first time in my 20 years of being a karate fan that I’m pretty happy with AD and admin response to something important important


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #295 on: July 01, 2020, 02:31:32 PM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

https://www.k-state.edu/today/info/announcement/?id=66089

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?

I think Kansans will be too ashamed to boo that. definitely lots of stern arm folding though, kansans just aren't an outspoken bunch when it comes to things like this.


There will at minimum be a few short-haired ladies in the crowd (undoubtedly named Tammy or Jan or something) who will halfheartedly yell “All Lives Matter!” Probably just loud enough to be heard in the neighboring sections.
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #296 on: July 01, 2020, 02:34:28 PM »
There will at minimum be a few short-haired ladies in the crowd (undoubtedly named Tammy or Jan or something) who will halfheartedly yell “All Lives Matter!” Probably just loud enough to be heard in the neighboring sections.
I imagine that would be true.  Whatever.  If they don't like K-State's messaging (and they don't have to like it) they don't have to attend games. 

K-State's putting their neck out there a little bit by signing on to do this.  I'm sure they've considered the consequences.


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #297 on: July 01, 2020, 03:13:53 PM »
K-State has handled this surprisingly well


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #298 on: July 01, 2020, 03:31:11 PM »
K-State has handled this surprisingly well


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meh honkey, students and faculty of color is much too broad, we are talking about african americans here so lets use the specific term and quit leaving trap doors all over the place.
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« Reply #299 on: July 01, 2020, 03:51:51 PM »
Here I have an idea, match every scholarship you grant an african american student athlete with 5 more just like it for african american non athletes.  That would feel a little more genuine.  pffft of color my ass!
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