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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #100 on: October 08, 2020, 09:37:29 PM »
Michigancat thinks he’s living in 3020 with his ideas.  Wait til he hears about communism, the govt literally provides you with anything you could ever need.  It is lit as crap and everybody has a good time. 

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #101 on: October 08, 2020, 10:21:03 PM »


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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

I should probs read the article before I comment, but I was wondering what the housing situation was there (I assume they had access to affordable housing if the results were really good).

I don't know how Canada handles affordable housing but I do know Vancouver ain't cheap

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #102 on: October 08, 2020, 11:32:46 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

Sure, and for that type of homeless, this cash injection worked well.  I'm not surprised.  Now, on to addressing the more difficult problem.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #103 on: October 08, 2020, 11:47:08 PM »
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All 115 participants, ranging in age between 19 and 64, had been homeless for at least six months and were not struggling with serious substance use or mental health issues.
That's not exactly rare, depending on the source. Tons of homeless are just people that can't afford housing. And of course homelessness can make a minor mental health issue way more serious.

Sure, and for that type of homeless, this cash injection worked well.  I'm not surprised.  Now, on to addressing the more difficult problem.

I don't think the findings of this program are insignificant or obvious to most people even with the population that participated, but OK

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #104 on: October 22, 2020, 10:03:33 AM »
This is a great (non) answer, politically. Justified since it's regarding a big, complex issue. And it doesn't commit him to anything right now.

Republicans have been willing to pay an electoral price for installing their judges. A case could be made that Democrats should go ahead and let them pay that price without potentially incurring one of their own by expanding the Supreme Court.

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1319244422790467586

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #105 on: October 22, 2020, 07:41:05 PM »
the shift from 'pub to dem of well educated voters gets more attention, but this is probably more important.

https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1319262929817079809
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #107 on: October 22, 2020, 08:25:03 PM »
the shift from 'pub to dem of well educated voters gets more attention, but this is probably more important.

https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1319262929817079809

I'd be willing to bet that black and Latino males are trending more conservative as black women and Latinas are trending more liberally. I obviously don't have data that shows this but colloquially it seems black men are becoming more conservative the more the patriarchy has collapsed.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #108 on: October 22, 2020, 08:27:12 PM »
I'd be willing to bet that black and Latino males are trending more conservative as black women and Latinas are trending more liberally.

yep, this is what has happened, at least vis a vis trump.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2020, 11:30:08 AM »
the shift from 'pub to dem of well educated voters gets more attention, but this is probably more important.

https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1319262929817079809

I'd be willing to bet that black and Latino males are trending more conservative as black women and Latinas are trending more liberally. I obviously don't have data that shows this but colloquially it seems black men are becoming more conservative the more the patriarchy has collapsed.
Lending further evidence to the point that women are the smarter members of the species as a whole.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2020, 11:59:19 AM »
Awful. Another instance of minority rule in our government.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1324044289660215297

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2020, 09:36:55 PM »
biden should have had like entire ads running in florida just talking about how much he admired guaido.

https://twitter.com/anaceballos_/status/1324523318356123649
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2020, 04:49:01 AM »
biden should have had like entire ads running in florida just talking about how much he admired guaido.

https://twitter.com/anaceballos_/status/1324523318356123649

I saw a long form television piece about Venezuelans in Florida and their voting habits, essentially he was in a no win situation there because the support for Guaido in Florida was only about 50/50. I think his bigger issue isn't that people though he was a socialist, that's been hanging around dems down there for a while and Obama and Hillary overcame it, he just didn't show up, he punted Florida.

Also if you haven't seen it yet, watch 537 Votes on HBO, it's a very well made doc, it's more about the history of politics and democrats in south Florida and less about the 2000 recount.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2020, 03:30:35 PM »
this is a cool map.  the other three blue splotches on the border are yuma, nogales and douglas, heavily mexican-american.

https://twitter.com/DiinSilversmith/status/1324752536121716736
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2020, 03:47:36 PM »
Very cool
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #116 on: November 06, 2020, 05:21:32 PM »
shor is really going for a 2nd cancellation today.

https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1324754227705663489
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #117 on: November 06, 2020, 06:18:09 PM »
this is a cool map.  the other three blue splotches on the border are yuma, nogales and douglas, heavily mexican-american.

https://twitter.com/DiinSilversmith/status/1324752536121716736

Do you know how AZ Latinos are different culturally from RGV Latinos?


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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #118 on: November 06, 2020, 06:20:55 PM »
shor is really going for a 2nd cancellation today.

https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1324754227705663489

I was going to say he should run some numbers on the value of keeping his own mouth shut but I bet his first cancellation was fairly lucrative overall. (also is this really cancel worthy?)

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #119 on: November 06, 2020, 06:24:50 PM »
also is this really cancel worthy?

nah, he just got a bunch of people to yell at him.  for this and for criticizing aoc.
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #120 on: November 06, 2020, 06:32:05 PM »
Do you know how AZ Latinos are different culturally from RGV Latinos?

i haven't spent much time in the rgv, but my impressions are that rgv would be longer generations in the us (many since pre-1848), more with a familial origin in ne mexico compared to more diverse regional origin in az, az more urban, probably just slightly younger.  rgv pretty much 100% mexican, az maybe 10% central american or so too.

my guess is that generations in the us and/or ruralness are probably the most important differences.
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« Reply #121 on: November 06, 2020, 06:36:27 PM »
Do you know how AZ Latinos are different culturally from RGV Latinos?

i haven't spent much time in the rgv, but my impressions are that rgv would be longer generations in the us (many since pre-1848), more with a familial origin in ne mexico compared to more diverse regional origin in az, az more urban, probably just slightly younger.  rgv pretty much 100% mexican, az maybe 10% central american or so too.

my guess is that generations in the us and/or ruralness are probably the most important differences.

that makes sense. seems crazy how much they shifted to the right in TX

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« Reply #122 on: November 06, 2020, 06:59:19 PM »
oh, one other thing that might be relevant.  rgv is like 90-95% mexican-american.  it's pretty homogeneous.  most az latinos live in phoenix or tucson, where while some may live in highly latino neighborhoods, the cities themselves are multicultural.
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #123 on: November 06, 2020, 07:04:20 PM »
hopefully dems can hold this.  2022 may be tough in nevada, though.

https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1324756523378118656
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #124 on: November 06, 2020, 10:06:12 PM »
florida latinos are a pretty distinct group from the rest of the mainly mexican latino population throughout the rest of the country. I don't think catering to the florida weirdos is worth it at this point, just offer them material benefits and let the chips fall.

the southwest and midwest are worth way more, and just objectively guaido is a joke so it doesn't even make any sense (I think you were joking). But in general I don't think trying to appeal to the south american contras and capitalist carribbean types instead of the much larger population of working and middle class mexicans is worth it anyway.