24 hour quick poll on kdub's death total

[Spracne]

Link to the "we are down 15k flu deaths per week" claim?

i think they are talking about both a link bp left in the coronavirus thread and the graphic here and mixing them up a bit.  didn't open the link, so not positive.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense. That would mean more flu deaths in a month than in a typical flu season.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

Link to the "we are down 15k flu deaths per week" claim?

i think they are talking about both a link bp left in the coronavirus thread and the graphic here and mixing them up a bit.  didn't open the link, so not positive.

The truth is...  NOBODY rough ridin' KNOWS how many deaths there are due to COVID-19. 

We've got Governors (CT) claiming infants died of COVID-19 when the child was smothered by a caregiver and now the CDC instructing hospitals to claim COVID as cause of death even when only "assumed" but not confirmed.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

Link to the "we are down 15k flu deaths per week" claim?

i think they are talking about both a link bp left in the coronavirus thread and the graphic here and mixing them up a bit.  didn't open the link, so not positive.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense. That would mean more flu deaths in a month than in a typical flu season.

I agree. It doesn't make sense especially based on the estimate of 24k-63k total for the season per https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

When I posted the infographic, I took it to mean "ALL DEATHS" regardless of cause and only pivoted to flu as that's what catastrophe chose to focus on per the graphic.

A 15k per week decrease in ALL DEATHS  makes a crap ton of sense though

[kim carnes]

I feel like ppl should take the Sunday numbers from the hard hit European countries w a grain of salt.  Like france had 3 consecutive days of 1k deaths and today they’re reporting 518.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

I feel like ppl should take the Sunday numbers from the hard hit European countries w a grain of salt.  Like france had 3 consecutive days of 1k deaths and today they’re reporting 518.

Completely agree...   Literally all of the reported numbers from every country around the globe (USA included) feel very much like looking to a KU football box score for "game attendance".

[catastrophe]

Link to the "we are down 15k flu deaths per week" claim?

crap, I dunno...  I thought it was "all deaths".

castastrophe claimed its just flu deaths per the links in the infographic above.

Either way, this pandemic has saved a crap ton of lives, amirite?

Well I never claimed that.  I just said the sources cited suggested it.  I did try to click through and the CDC does provide a spreadsheet of historical flu related information, including a column titled "all deaths."  However, it's not at all clear what exactly that number represents.  When you search for death statistics on the CDC website, the latest report is from 2018, so it seems like it takes some time to pull together reliable information.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/deaths.htm

[kim carnes]

I feel like ppl should take the Sunday numbers from the hard hit European countries w a grain of salt.  Like france had 3 consecutive days of 1k deaths and today they’re reporting 518.

Completely agree...   Literally all of the reported numbers from every country around the globe (USA included) feel very much like looking to a KU football box score for "game attendance".

We’re saying the exact opposite things.  They’re under reporting.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

I feel like ppl should take the Sunday numbers from the hard hit European countries w a grain of salt.  Like france had 3 consecutive days of 1k deaths and today they’re reporting 518.

Completely agree...   Literally all of the reported numbers from every country around the globe (USA included) feel very much like looking to a KU football box score for "game attendance".

We’re saying the exact opposite things.  They’re under reporting.

Thanks for completely missing the point...  both are "mis-reporting", fairly dramatically.

 

[puniraptor]

how "all deaths" are impacted by this is going to be really interesting
murder: down probably?
suicide: sharply up
heart disease: die of covid instead
car crash: way down
forklift accident: up
PTO shaft: flat
choking on food: maybe up
drugs: down? supply chains disrupted
booze: up, mission essential 

[sys]

9618 on worldometer
9643 on johns hopkins

i had 4/5 as the middle option because i thought it was the most likely, so this is good news compared to my expectation.

[nicname]

how "all deaths" are impacted by this is going to be really interesting
murder: down probably?
suicide: sharply up
heart disease: die of covid instead
car crash: way down
forklift accident: up
PTO shaft: flat
choking on food: maybe up
drugs: down? supply chains disrupted
booze: up, mission essential 

im v interested in this as well.

[puniraptor]

if you are choking on a riblet in an applebees, there is at least a chance that there is a doctor in the house

[nicname]

Don't think this is worth its own thread, so I'll post here. Kinda morbid, but also pragmatic thought.

People are getting too good at warding off death. So good that we are overpopulating earth and draining her resources. Is 'rona mother nature's latest and best attempt to cull our herd and save herself?

Put another way, it's like how they keep preventing forest fires near rich residential areas that are prone to fires. Fires are supposed to happen, but we keep stopping the fires from happening, so all the firemaking stuff keeps building up and then when there is a real fire it is like a really, really bad fire that does tons of damage. Is 'rona just killing off tons of people that shouldn't be alive anyway or is the natural path that people achieve basic immortality and in turn must find some sort of homeostasis where our numbers remain similar and we don't kill the earth?

Im drunk.

[catastrophe]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Happening_(2008_film)

[Rage Against the McKee]

Don't think this is worth its own thread, so I'll post here. Kinda morbid, but also pragmatic thought.

People are getting too good at warding off death. So good that we are overpopulating earth and draining her resources. Is 'rona mother nature's latest and best attempt to cull our herd and save herself?

Put another way, it's like how they keep preventing forest fires near rich residential areas that are prone to fires. Fires are supposed to happen, but we keep stopping the fires from happening, so all the firemaking stuff keeps building up and then when there is a real fire it is like a really, really bad fire that does tons of damage. Is 'rona just killing off tons of people that shouldn't be alive anyway or is the natural path that people achieve basic immortality and in turn must find some sort of homeostasis where our numbers remain similar and we don't kill the earth?

Im drunk.

It isn't killing nearly enough people to make any sort of meaningful difference.

[ChiComCat]

Don't think this is worth its own thread, so I'll post here. Kinda morbid, but also pragmatic thought.

People are getting too good at warding off death. So good that we are overpopulating earth and draining her resources. Is 'rona mother nature's latest and best attempt to cull our herd and save herself?

Put another way, it's like how they keep preventing forest fires near rich residential areas that are prone to fires. Fires are supposed to happen, but we keep stopping the fires from happening, so all the firemaking stuff keeps building up and then when there is a real fire it is like a really, really bad fire that does tons of damage. Is 'rona just killing off tons of people that shouldn't be alive anyway or is the natural path that people achieve basic immortality and in turn must find some sort of homeostasis where our numbers remain similar and we don't kill the earth?

Im drunk.

nicname is a Thanos sock

[star seed 7]

Perfectly pak'd, as all things should be

[LickNeckey]

you ever watch the planet earth where the fungus invades whatever bug is overwhelming the ecosystem?

pretty much that

[Bqqkie Pimp]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1247691218240315393?s=20

I may have mentioned that the death toll numbers in the USA are skewed, at best.

 

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1247691218240315393?s=20

I may have mentioned that the death toll numbers in the USA are skewed, at best.

 

I haven't watched that clip yet but from what I've gleaned today it's pure dumbass fuel. They live on it

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1247691218240315393?s=20

I may have mentioned that the death toll numbers in the USA are skewed, at best.

 

I haven't watched that clip yet but from what I've gleaned today it's pure dumbass fuel. They live on it

Yes, that's exactly what it is, aimed at MAGAqs who hate reading.
These people are too stupid to know what an autopsy is and how difficult they are to perform on bodies infected by a virus. They also lack the perspective to understand how difficult it is to do autopsies when people in New York are dying, of COVID or COVID related illness, every 3 minutes. They are also too stupid to know that one of the ways that coronavirus kills people is through organ failure, so if someone with liver disease dies after getting infected with coronavirus, it is in fact appropriate to determine that coronavirus killed that person.

Dr. Brix couldn't say any of that crap, so I did it for her.

[sys]

got to 1970 on the death count today.  probably included a lot of people that were undercounted over the weekend, but it'll be interesting to see what tomorrow looks like.

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1247872519597629440

[chum1]

Remember when Kazz Dub said he didn't think we'd have 10k deaths?

I’d set the over/under at maybe 10,000 US deaths by the end of 2020...Basically a mild flu season. In fact, some of these deaths will likely overlap potential flu deaths.
...
You want to talk about “exponential growth”? Look at the panic emanating from government agencies. We’ve now closed all schools in Kansas for the rest of the semester. On what rational basis?

I agree, we’re headed for deaths around 30-40k, although the “true” number of deaths caused by covid, as opposed to dying with covid but primarily from other causes, will continue to be debated for some time

[cfbandyman]

I love that goal post move with an audible for the out.

I'm sure the grifters in 1918 and during the Black Death contemplated the same thing as people died with "well they were going to die anyways, sure they died from this but honestly death was around the door for this person as well, so we can't assign total blame to it, 2 million dead? More like 1 million since those other 1 million were going to die anyways, I'm just sure of it"