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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2975 on: June 10, 2021, 10:33:39 AM »
For the most part Dax is correct here....however the issue with the voter ID is that how it's being spun...if you had a universal US ID (which honestly it probably should be) it'd be better because this 51 different forms of ID is crazy in the USA plus with the shift to REAL ID it'd just be best if we all have the same type of ID (so no DC, KS, MO, AK IDs just a USA ID)...but until then it's the recommendations and types of IDs you need to get to get the precious Voter ID....I'll just quote the 4th Circuit "Targeted African Americans with almost surgical precision", or sending out a pamphlet to ask about forms of ID your base has versus the opposing base has...and banning the ones not on your list (student ID for example)...also the enforcement of the Voter ID is depending where you are....a small rural county in say Nebraska they wont bother to ask you for your ID because "they know you" but if the same thing happened in Omaha it'd be wall to wall coverage of Voter Fraud due to no ID....also when you look at voting patterns and go after a specific type of voting...IE mail in voting which was the GOP's secret weapon in Florida...because a majority of the Democrat voters used it and try to put restrictions on it, it becomes very clear why. Also putting up voting booths in different areas like in democratic strongholds in states you could have to wait 45 minutes plus to get vote whereas in the villages in Florida it is literally in and your out...but finally the purpose of voting restrictions and suppression is not to affect the super voter (votes in every election whether it's primary, general, local etc) the goal is to make it as easy as possible for your low frequency/irregular voters (maybe vote in the midterms but generally vote in the Presidential years) so the rural areas where an ID may not be needed because "you know him" while at the same time making it painful for the opposition's low frequency/irregular voters. I'd get into the voting hours but that is a whole other kettle of fish
I'm sure most of you took the time to reminisce about the time just a few years back when it was perfectly acceptable to question the outcome of elections and to repeatedly call the elected President illegitimate (and it will be again in the future if the Republicans can overcome the manufactured super majority process) . . . you know, back during when questioning every Democratic presidential loss wasn't a "threat to our Democracy".   

Welp, this is probably going to change some "lets be like the Europeans" minds that at one time dominated the ProgLib movement.

Of 47 nations surveyed in Europe -- a place where, on other matters, American progressives often look to with envy -- all but one country requires a government-issued photo voter ID to vote. The exception is the U.K., and even there voter IDs are mandatory in Northern Ireland for all elections and in parts of England for local elections. Moreover, Boris Johnson’s government recently introduced legislation to have the rest of the country follow suit.

Seventy-four percent of European countries entirely ban absentee voting for citizens who reside domestically. Another 6% limit it to those hospitalized or in the military, and they require third-party verification and a photo voter ID. Another 15% require a photo ID for absentee voting.

Similarly, government-issued photo IDs are required to vote by 33 nations in the 37-member Organistion for Economic Co-operation and Development (which has considerable European overlap). Only the UK, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia currently do not require IDs. Of those outliers:


On the mainland, France banned mail-in voting in 1975 because of massive fraud in the island region of Corsica, where postal ballots were stolen or bought and others were cast in the names of dead people.


https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/06/01/the_us_is_a_voter_photo_id_outlier_theyre_the_rule_in_europe_and_elsewhere_778714.html

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2976 on: June 10, 2021, 11:37:58 AM »
Paragraphs are your friend.

The reason the ProgFacist goes straight to the racism card with follow-up using various forms of race based labels is because to get into the details would expose the idiocy and thus subject the ProgFascist to the ridicule they so richly deserve.

The "laser focus" comment is absolutely  :lol:

The standard list of requirements is every case is a list of documentation needed for any able bodied/mind/guardian aided citizen to participate in nearly every facet of our society be it:  Governmental, financial system, health system, educational system participation and engagement (and that's just naming a few).   Without any of them, functioning in our modern society would be nearly impossible.   A litany of Federal/State/Local agencies has a list of either unacceptable or secondary ID only items of which most if not all of your "laser focus" items reside.   In other words, don't even bother trying to use that list of ID's as your primary in trying to engage with us because they're not going to get you anywhere by themselves.    This is understood by anyone with even a modicum of intelligence and engagement in the basic mechanisms of a 1st world country. 

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2977 on: June 10, 2021, 12:40:23 PM »
Yeah I have never had any problem with needing id to vote, but it should be easily acquired and free of charge. I wonder why dax does not want those things..... Hmmmmm...............
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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2978 on: June 10, 2021, 12:46:06 PM »
Yeah I have never had any problem with needing id to vote, but it should be easily acquired and free of charge. I wonder why dax does not want those things..... Hmmmmm...............

Every state I've lived in offers a free state ID.   The list of things you can use to get them is many bullet points long and even if you don't have any of those there's other processes that that one can go through to obtain a free ID.


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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2979 on: June 10, 2021, 09:20:55 PM »
Yeah I have never had any problem with needing id to vote, but it should be easily acquired and free of charge. I wonder why dax does not want those things..... Hmmmmm...............

Every state I've lived in offers a free state ID.   The list of things you can use to get them is many bullet points long and even if you don't have any of those there's other processes that that one can go through to obtain a free ID.

You live in a state that closed several DMVs in predominately poor black rural areas, this happened after they made IDs mandatory to vote.
https://www.governing.com/archive/alabama-demands-voter-id--then-closes-drivers-license-offices-in-clack-counties.html

https://www.al.com/opinion/2017/01/as_it_turns_out_bentleys_drive.html
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Gov. Robert Bentley denied there was any racist intent behind the closure of 31 driver license offices in 2015, but an investigation by the United States Department of Transportation found they adversely impacted majority African-American counties.

All you had to do was look at a map to see it.

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2980 on: June 17, 2021, 10:29:55 AM »
This is insane.


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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2981 on: June 17, 2021, 10:35:33 AM »
Good lord


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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2982 on: June 17, 2021, 10:41:48 AM »
:lol:

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2983 on: June 17, 2021, 12:25:47 PM »
The left is getting nervous
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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2984 on: June 17, 2021, 01:35:06 PM »
so incredibly trumpy

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2985 on: June 17, 2021, 02:44:28 PM »
Only we can force weeks and months of recounts, claim illegitimacy and immediately attempt impeachment proceedings (ProgFascist Nation)


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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2986 on: June 17, 2021, 08:01:49 PM »
Like Trump, I have always been an Italian satellite hack guy.  The evidence is so abundant, as Trump has said on the record.

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2987 on: June 17, 2021, 09:39:26 PM »
Like Trump, I have always been an Italian satellite hack guy.  The evidence is so abundant, as Trump has said on the record.
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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2988 on: June 17, 2021, 09:49:37 PM »
This is insane.

Holy crap :lol:
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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2989 on: June 18, 2021, 09:22:28 PM »
Only we can force weeks and months of recounts, claim illegitimacy and immediately attempt impeachment proceedings (ProgFascist Nation)


Yes, there is absolutely nothing unusual or suspicious about the Arizona “audit” at all.
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2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2990 on: June 20, 2021, 07:04:36 AM »
Only we can force weeks and months of recounts, claim illegitimacy and immediately attempt impeachment proceedings (ProgFascist Nation)


Yes, there is absolutely nothing unusual or suspicious about the Arizona “audit” at all.
#lol

Welcome to  2021. 

This isn’t a bunch of ProfLib lawyers in a room telling us a chad angle means Gore won

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2991 on: June 20, 2021, 11:48:48 PM »
So what is it, then?
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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2992 on: June 21, 2021, 09:15:11 AM »
It's called auditing a vote count in the year of our Flying Spaghetti Monster: 2021

Join us

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2993 on: June 21, 2021, 09:41:08 AM »
There should probably be some transparency into the auditing process.  What happens if this guy claims the election was rigged?

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2994 on: June 22, 2021, 09:27:12 AM »
Why would you want transparency when you can give a trove of voter data to a CEO so he can disappear with it to his super secret lab at his Montana compound where no one is allowed to see anything?
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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2995 on: June 22, 2021, 10:57:02 AM »
He could be applying for credit cards under each voters name or maybe just signing them up for a year's subscription to Cat Fancy

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2996 on: June 22, 2021, 02:54:55 PM »
This is all perfectly normal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AKTBHuRv9U

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2997 on: June 22, 2021, 03:51:05 PM »
Again.   No one can question election outcomes, claim illegitimacy and immediately begin work on impeachment proceedings except for ProgFascists. 

We get it.

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Re: 2020 General Election Thread
« Reply #2998 on: June 22, 2021, 07:52:46 PM »
What do impeachment proceedings have to do with the absurd Arizona recount that is happening right now? Do you also admit that this recount is operating significantly differently than every other recount in history? Because it is.
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