CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[wetwillie]

I am not reading that

[Cire]

It’s just a plan. Anyone can have a plan


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[sonofdaxjones]

If you start with the #blueanon narrative as communicated by CNN that Interim President Biden’s administration is starting from scratch on the vaccine.  Then you begin to tell yourself that there was no plan and are impressed by a glossy brochure. 

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/_ericting/status/1352307057848852480

The outdoor dining ban is really dumb (but I don't think it made a significant impact either way on our December surge)

[sonofdaxjones]

An extremely dumb narrative propagated by very dumb people. 

[sonofdaxjones]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-england-prevalence-idUSKBN29Q00H

Lockdowns are a political tool to make people feel like their government is doing something. 

Poorly timed lock downs only exacerbate the situation, particularly during winter months when the indoors may lack air exchange.

Again and again the story of tighter restrictions and lockdowns is that of amplification. 

That’s why telling people to go party and then locking them down was incredibly stupid in NYC.   

[nicname]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-england-prevalence-idUSKBN29Q00H

Lockdowns are a political tool to make people feel like their government is doing something. 

Poorly timed lock downs only exacerbate the situation, particularly during winter months when the indoors may lack air exchange.

Again and again the story of tighter restrictions and lockdowns is that of amplification. 

That’s why telling people to go party and then locking them down was incredibly stupid in NYC.

School shutdowns are the worst. Not angry at shutting them down early, but as we learned more they needed to be the first things back open.

[sonofdaxjones]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-england-prevalence-idUSKBN29Q00H

Lockdowns are a political tool to make people feel like their government is doing something. 

Poorly timed lock downs only exacerbate the situation, particularly during winter months when the indoors may lack air exchange.

Again and again the story of tighter restrictions and lockdowns is that of amplification. 

That’s why telling people to go party and then locking them down was incredibly stupid in NYC.

School shutdowns are the worst. Not angry at shutting them down early, but as we learned more they needed to be the first things back open.

Shutdowns backed by zero science at the time.

[LickNeckey]

https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/

just following truth and science is all Dax has ever done


https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-how-one-particular-coronavirus-myth-went-viral/

[nicname]

Congrats #blueanon nation.

You're going to start seeing a reduction in positive cases, because almost right on cue the WHO has issued guidance on Ct.   Soon to come to the U.S. if not already here.   

Instead of Ct values of 37-40 in PCR testing, we'll see Ct values of 30 . . . tops.   Thus reducing the amplification of already low viral loads that in the vast majority of cases are both asymptomatic and non-infectious. 

Cases are most certainly going to drop simply by this measure alone.   How appropriately timed . . . should have bet on it.

There's only one state that requires Ct value reporting, Florida.

As someone who designs and does qPCR assays all the time - anything that comes up after cycle 30-32 is pretty much trash (spurious products, primer dimers, etc.). Reducing your cycles by 10 will save you ~15 mins per run and allow you to process more samples a day. Good, common sense molecular biology - especially for any diagnostics lab.

Yes. So the US using a 40-cycle PCR for the last 10 months or so seems like a poor choice then.

[star seed 7]

https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/

just following truth and science is all Dax has ever done


https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-how-one-particular-coronavirus-myth-went-viral/

Once again dax is on the forefront of misinformation. 

[DaBigTrain]

omg

[Dugout DickStone]

tazered

[ben ji]

JoCo phase 2 signup here, wont give you a date or anything but say they will contact you when you can go get chipped.

https://www.jocogov.org/covid-19-vaccine

I'm just a desk jockey but technically am involved in multiple of the categories/industries listed so I signed up. Can't wait to get chipped!

Thank you for completing the Johnson County Government Health Department Phase 2 COVID-19 Interest Form. Your information was received.

On Wednesday, the Governor announced that Kansas is moving into Phase 2 of the Kansas COVID-19 Vaccination Prioritization Plan. Johnson County will move to Phase 2 next week.

Phase 2 will be divided into three Tiers and when we have vaccine available we will begin vaccinating these groups in Tier 1.
• All unvaccinated persons prioritized in previous phases.
• Persons aged 65 and over
• K-12 including teachers, custodians, drivers and other staff
• Licensed childcare workers including custodians, drivers and other staff
• Emergency services (Fire, Police)
• Food and Agriculture
o Grocery store workers
o Food processing, including meat processing plants
o Restaurants/Bars
When we are vaccinating your Tier, we will email you instructions on scheduling a vaccination appointment. Your patience is requested as the Johnson County Department of Health and Environment gets vaccine out as quickly as possible. We expect it will take several weeks to vaccinate Phase 2. As more vaccine becomes available, we will add additional appointments.

Groups included in Tier 2 and Tier 3 can be found here: https://www.jocogov.org/covid-19-vaccine

View our news conference from last night to learn more about our plan for Phase 2 rollout

[TaqMan]

Congrats #blueanon nation.

You're going to start seeing a reduction in positive cases, because almost right on cue the WHO has issued guidance on Ct.   Soon to come to the U.S. if not already here.   

Instead of Ct values of 37-40 in PCR testing, we'll see Ct values of 30 . . . tops.   Thus reducing the amplification of already low viral loads that in the vast majority of cases are both asymptomatic and non-infectious. 

Cases are most certainly going to drop simply by this measure alone.   How appropriately timed . . . should have bet on it.

There's only one state that requires Ct value reporting, Florida.

As someone who designs and does qPCR assays all the time - anything that comes up after cycle 30-32 is pretty much trash (spurious products, primer dimers, etc.). Reducing your cycles by 10 will save you ~15 mins per run and allow you to process more samples a day. Good, common sense molecular biology - especially for any diagnostics lab.

Yes. So the US using a 40-cycle PCR for the last 10 months or so seems like a poor choice then.

Another science nerd here so I'll also chime in. Look at nearly any qPCR experiment and you'll see you always run them for at least 40 cycles. It's where the signal crosses a set threshold that gives you a Ct value. And that part is a bit fuzzy too since depending where you set your threshold point, you can swing that Ct value at least 3-5 cycles.

[nicname]

Congrats #blueanon nation.

You're going to start seeing a reduction in positive cases, because almost right on cue the WHO has issued guidance on Ct.   Soon to come to the U.S. if not already here.   

Instead of Ct values of 37-40 in PCR testing, we'll see Ct values of 30 . . . tops.   Thus reducing the amplification of already low viral loads that in the vast majority of cases are both asymptomatic and non-infectious. 

Cases are most certainly going to drop simply by this measure alone.   How appropriately timed . . . should have bet on it.

There's only one state that requires Ct value reporting, Florida.

As someone who designs and does qPCR assays all the time - anything that comes up after cycle 30-32 is pretty much trash (spurious products, primer dimers, etc.). Reducing your cycles by 10 will save you ~15 mins per run and allow you to process more samples a day. Good, common sense molecular biology - especially for any diagnostics lab.

Yes. So the US using a 40-cycle PCR for the last 10 months or so seems like a poor choice then.

Another science nerd here so I'll also chime in. Look at nearly any qPCR experiment and you'll see you always run them for at least 40 cycles. It's where the signal crosses a set threshold that gives you a Ct value. And that part is a bit fuzzy too since depending where you set your threshold point, you can swing that Ct value at least 3-5 cycles.

Non-nerd here, but find this stuff fascinating. Cycles are exponential as well, correct? Like, if you get a test and your showing covid after 10 cycles you’ve probably got a good but in you. But if it’s 30-35... 40, you may have like a couple of little viral guys maybe hanging out in there?

I’d love to gain a nutshell/layman’s understanding of how this all works.

[mocat]

https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/1352693483052535808?s=19

[sonofdaxjones]

Love it when people post opinion pieces and treat them as absolute fact.

Not surprising in the least from several people who over post on this blog.

[sonofdaxjones]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/04/covid-19-lancet-retracts-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials

You need to follow the science . . . when it fits our agenda.  (ProgFascist Nation)

[sonofdaxjones]

"There's nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the virus" . . . IPOTUS Joe Biden

[steve dave]

guys, this feels so good (despite it being really bad still obv)

https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1352771753626529792

[steve dave]

best part

[steve dave]

JUNE!? 

https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/general-population-may-have-to-wait-4-months-for-vaccine-if-supplies-dont-increase-ricketts/article_e5947ed0-5cd8-11eb-8ea0-0bfd6fd01898.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_OWHnews

couple things that make me irl not worried about this.

A) ricketts is a known dumbass
B) JNJ chip obviously going to get approved and ramp this thing up

Late April/Early May is still my guess

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1353025211290054665

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1353025211290054665

Dang