CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[sys]

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1340537070109020161

the quality of the counterarguments is embarrassingly bad.

[chum1]

the quality of the counterarguments is embarrassingly bad.

Not sure they're meant to be counterarguments. And I think skepticism of a nonprofessional is a good thing in itself.

[chum1]

Jared Kushner energy in the "look, I've done a LOT of reading" part.

[wetwillie]

So break it down for me, Nate is saying we should be vaccinating elderly folks before others because they are more likely to die from Covid?

[chum1]

There's a lot of words, bit this seems to be a big part.

Silver: ACIP's recommendation on X sucks.
CDC epidemiologist: ACIP hasn't made a recommendation on X.

https://twitter.com/Jo_Walker_ATL/status/1340175361955414024
https://twitter.com/Jo_Walker_ATL/status/1340388400298217472
https://twitter.com/Jo_Walker_ATL/status/1340382536346714112

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1340480109380313088


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[steve dave]

Jared Kushner energy in the "look, I've done a LOT of reading" part.

https://twitter.com/BobSaietta/status/1340541455467761664

[steve dave]

freshly vaccinated marco has had enough of covid protections

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1340647387652648961

[Dugout DickStone]

December 20 and Marco is here to let you know his stance.

[Dugout DickStone]

I am assuming there is at least a little trepidation about putting 85 year old magas at the front because some are likely to die anyway and their crap head kids who read Ben Garrison will make a huge scene and slow down the chipping.

Your 20 year old diabetic isn't as likely to have that issue.

[michigancat]

There's a lot of words, bit this seems to be a big part.

Silver: ACIP's recommendation on X sucks.
CDC epidemiologist: ACIP hasn't made a recommendation on X.

So they could end up agreeing with each other?

yes, also silver only shared projections for one vaccine type that did not prevent spread, only stop the disease. very sloppy tweeting by silver, especially when accompanied by some serious finger-wagging and bragging.

there's also this:

https://twitter.com/ngcrawford/status/1340380264200089601?s=20

granted it's hospitalizations vs. deaths but still an important consideration (not sure if the death modeling accounts for hospital capacity or not)

[chum1]

freshly vaccinated marco has had enough of covid protections

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1340647387652648961

https://twitter.com/sfdb/status/1340669891549016064

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm kind of expecting the "who goes first" stuff with the vaccine to not get followed, anyway. As soon as everyone at the hospital has their vaccine, I'm thinking they will just take appointments on a first come, first serve basis.

[michigancat]

freshly vaccinated marco has had enough of covid protections

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1340647387652648961

https://twitter.com/sfdb/status/1340669891549016064

haha I actually googled "USF Cougars" because I was confused

[Spracne]

I'm kind of expecting the "who goes first" stuff with the vaccine to not get followed, anyway. As soon as everyone at the hospital has their vaccine, I'm thinking they will just take appointments on a first come, first serve basis.

Are there any particular reasons you think that?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm kind of expecting the "who goes first" stuff with the vaccine to not get followed, anyway. As soon as everyone at the hospital has their vaccine, I'm thinking they will just take appointments on a first come, first serve basis.

Are there any particular reasons you think that?

Distribution isn't centralized. Nobody is going to know when it's their turn and hospitals aren't going to go down some list to contact people, especially when half of the population doesn't even want it. I think that if the hospital has some vaccines on hand and I call to make an appointment, they will let me come in and get one.

[michigancat]

I'm kind of expecting the "who goes first" stuff with the vaccine to not get followed, anyway. As soon as everyone at the hospital has their vaccine, I'm thinking they will just take appointments on a first come, first serve basis.

Are there any particular reasons you think that?

Distribution isn't centralized. Nobody is going to know when it's their turn and hospitals aren't going to go down some list to contact people, especially when half of the population doesn't even want it. I think that if the hospital has some vaccines on hand and I call to make an appointment, they will let me come in and get one.

In California, the state determines how many chips each county gets and final distribution is managed by county health departments who are in charge of priority. It'll be a while before there's enough chips to get to the point you describe.

The presentation link Silver shared considered infrastructure and mentioned that long term care facilities already have a good system in place to get residents vaccinated, which is another good reason to get them to the front of the line.

[steve dave]

I'm kind of expecting the "who goes first" stuff with the vaccine to not get followed, anyway. As soon as everyone at the hospital has their vaccine, I'm thinking they will just take appointments on a first come, first serve basis.

Are there any particular reasons you think that?

Distribution isn't centralized. Nobody is going to know when it's their turn and hospitals aren't going to go down some list to contact people, especially when half of the population doesn't even want it. I think that if the hospital has some vaccines on hand and I call to make an appointment, they will let me come in and get one.

I have my annual physical on Jan 29 and, guys, I will ask

[michigancat]

Also my wife finally gets chipped tomorrow

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm kind of expecting the "who goes first" stuff with the vaccine to not get followed, anyway. As soon as everyone at the hospital has their vaccine, I'm thinking they will just take appointments on a first come, first serve basis.

Are there any particular reasons you think that?

Distribution isn't centralized. Nobody is going to know when it's their turn and hospitals aren't going to go down some list to contact people, especially when half of the population doesn't even want it. I think that if the hospital has some vaccines on hand and I call to make an appointment, they will let me come in and get one.

In California, the state determines how many chips each county gets and final distribution is managed by county health departments who are in charge of priority. It'll be a while before there's enough chips to get to the point you describe.

The presentation link Silver shared considered infrastructure and mentioned that long term care facilities already have a good system in place to get residents vaccinated, which is another good reason to get them to the front of the line.

I expect California to be a lot more on the ball with prioritizing vaccines than Kansas, fwiw.

[michigancat]

Kansas seems to have a pretty similar plan

https://www.coronavirus.kdheks.gov/284/COVID-19-Vaccine

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, the second phase, limited availability (late winter) is when it will become a free for all.

[MakeItRain]

freshly vaccinated marco has had enough of covid protections

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1340647387652648961

https://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1340794737670950916

[wetwillie]

What a weird thing to politicize

[michigancat]

What a weird thing to politicize

Yeah I think all congresspeople are getting vaxxed.

 And it's especially important for the right wing loons to make a show of it. (As well as other high profile politicians who may serve a skeptical community like AOC.)