CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[mocat]

tell them, mark cuban

https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/1242441662208622594

[chum1]

Dangerous

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1242455267603877894

[michigancat]

I had never heard of this Jesse Kelly guy but he has emerged as a leading shitbag through the whole pandemic

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1242450230114693122

[catastrophe]

What a bunch of snowflakes if they’d rather die than live through 5-10 years of inconvenience and lower quality of life.

[DaBigTrain]

I had never heard of this Jesse Kelly guy but he has emerged as a leading shitbag through the whole pandemic

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1242450230114693122

What?  I was told by a very well informed person that nobody wants to die for dear leader.

[bucket]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1242448985828319233

 

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1242448985828319233

 

what in the ever loving eff

[MakeItRain]

I think a large majority of dems are unnecessarily freaking out about Trump's diarrhea of the mouth. He has said insane, stupid crap literally every single day. The freak out over sending people back to work next week is cherry picking. He hadn't done crap and will continue not to do crap.

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1242286046252941312

His words matter more than anyone's, really. And most of the stupid crap he says is just childish bullshit, suggesting that everyone goes back to work puts pressure on governors who probably shouldn't yet and gets him off the hook. It'll probably work too.

They didn't listen to him when deciding to act before the federal government did, why would they change midstream and start suddenly following his suggestions? From what I'm understanding many of these governors are meeting every day, these meetings likely drive policy much more than rantings of a mad man. I am not saying that they will all ignore him, looking at you Ron Desantis, but he hasn't had influence to this point, there's no evidence to suggest that's going to start now.

[Phil Titola]

Why are we doing a trillion dollars if we are all back to normal in 3 weeks?

[Justwin]

The economy is not going to do well with a health system completed overran and people dying from COVID and from normal stuff that can't be fixed in hospitals due to COVID overrun.

This is the only way they can frame it for it to click for this guy.  We have the game plan from the east, lock down, get it under control, get relief to businesses and individuals and deal with it.  Opening early and dragging this out will make it 100x worse.  JFC this isn't difficult to understand.

I don't get the dragging it out point.  Everything I have seen indicates that employing measures to slow the spread drags it out longer.  Then once you have it under control, you're likely to have a second outbreak at some point, meaning you're going to have to implement lockdowns and social distancing again.  Again dragging everything out longer.

[steve dave]

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[Kat Kid]

 

[michigancat]

I think a large majority of dems are unnecessarily freaking out about Trump's diarrhea of the mouth. He has said insane, stupid crap literally every single day. The freak out over sending people back to work next week is cherry picking. He hadn't done crap and will continue not to do crap.

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1242286046252941312

His words matter more than anyone's, really. And most of the stupid crap he says is just childish bullshit, suggesting that everyone goes back to work puts pressure on governors who probably shouldn't yet and gets him off the hook. It'll probably work too.

They didn't listen to him when deciding to act before the federal government did, why would they change midstream and start suddenly following his suggestions? From what I'm understanding many of these governors are meeting every day, these meetings likely drive policy much more than rantings of a mad man. I am not saying that they will all ignore him, looking at you Ron Desantis, but he hasn't had influence to this point, there's no evidence to suggest that's going to start now.

I think the governors will still mostly be doing the right things, but he is going to turn a lot of people against the governors - making measures to slow the virus less popular and making enforcement more difficult. He might not influence the governors, it's his fans that are influenced.

Also his lack of action was a huge rough ridin' problem from the start, as is asking states to bid against each other for PPE and bullshit like that. There needs to be coordination and leadership from the federal level.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

The economy is not going to do well with a health system completed overran and people dying from COVID and from normal stuff that can't be fixed in hospitals due to COVID overrun.

This is the only way they can frame it for it to click for this guy.  We have the game plan from the east, lock down, get it under control, get relief to businesses and individuals and deal with it.  Opening early and dragging this out will make it 100x worse.  JFC this isn't difficult to understand.

I don't get the dragging it out point.  Everything I have seen indicates that employing measures to slow the spread drags it out longer.  Then once you have it under control, you're likely to have a second outbreak at some point, meaning you're going to have to implement lockdowns and social distancing again.  Again dragging everything out longer.

yeah i mean for some people the idea of a sick person who - under normal circumstances - has every reason to expect to make a full recovery - will go to the hospital and the hospital will say sorry, we're full can't help you...the thought of that is barbaric. But hey like you said on the plus side the duration of the thing is shorter so like, small price to pay, right?

[star seed 7]

I think a large majority of dems are unnecessarily freaking out about Trump's diarrhea of the mouth. He has said insane, stupid crap literally every single day. The freak out over sending people back to work next week is cherry picking. He hadn't done crap and will continue not to do crap.

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1242286046252941312

His words matter more than anyone's, really. And most of the stupid crap he says is just childish bullshit, suggesting that everyone goes back to work puts pressure on governors who probably shouldn't yet and gets him off the hook. It'll probably work too.

They didn't listen to him when deciding to act before the federal government did, why would they change midstream and start suddenly following his suggestions? From what I'm understanding many of these governors are meeting every day, these meetings likely drive policy much more than rantings of a mad man. I am not saying that they will all ignore him, looking at you Ron Desantis, but he hasn't had influence to this point, there's no evidence to suggest that's going to start now.

I think the governors will still mostly be doing the right things, but he is going to turn a lot of people against the governors - making measures to slow the virus less popular and making enforcement more difficult. He might not influence the governors, it's his fans that are influenced.

Also his lack of action was a huge rough ridin' problem from the start, as is asking states to bid against each other for PPE and bullshit like that. There needs to be coordination and leadership from the federal level.

This reminded me of another piece of insanity from yesterday. When asked why trump won't have the Govt take over medical equipment and ppe for the crisis, he responded by saying "ask Venezuela how nationalizing industry went for them, not too good"

[Justwin]

The economy is not going to do well with a health system completed overran and people dying from COVID and from normal stuff that can't be fixed in hospitals due to COVID overrun.

This is the only way they can frame it for it to click for this guy.  We have the game plan from the east, lock down, get it under control, get relief to businesses and individuals and deal with it.  Opening early and dragging this out will make it 100x worse.  JFC this isn't difficult to understand.

I don't get the dragging it out point.  Everything I have seen indicates that employing measures to slow the spread drags it out longer.  Then once you have it under control, you're likely to have a second outbreak at some point, meaning you're going to have to implement lockdowns and social distancing again.  Again dragging everything out longer.

yeah i mean for some people the idea of a sick person who - under normal circumstances - has every reason to expect to make a full recovery - will go to the hospital and the hospital will say sorry, we're full can't help you...the thought of that is barbaric. But hey like you said on the plus side the duration of the thing is shorter so like, small price to pay, right?

My point is only that all of these measures, including locking countries down, will need to last for 12-18 months for them to truly be effective.  That is from right out of the Imperial College report.  How long do you think people are going to be willing to endure the current situation of businesses being shut down?  Do you think people will stand for this being in effect from time to time over the next 12-18 months?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Sedgwick County is starting a Stay at Home order tomorrow, I think. But the draft exempts 26 extremely broad categories of businesses, including basically all the major manufacturers and basically all the major big box retail. Gas and groceries are exempt. So are liquor stores?! Interesting. Pet supply stores, exempt.

One wonders what the county commissioners are actually trying to accomplish here, other than “do something.” On the one hand, it appears to be a drastic overreaction - I think there are currently 3 or 4 confirmed cases in a county of over 500,000 people. On the other hand, it appears to be a largely symbolic overreaction, although it is going to further harm a lot of small businesses who can’t shoehorn their way into one of the exemptions.

[michigancat]

The economy is not going to do well with a health system completed overran and people dying from COVID and from normal stuff that can't be fixed in hospitals due to COVID overrun.

This is the only way they can frame it for it to click for this guy.  We have the game plan from the east, lock down, get it under control, get relief to businesses and individuals and deal with it.  Opening early and dragging this out will make it 100x worse.  JFC this isn't difficult to understand.

I don't get the dragging it out point.  Everything I have seen indicates that employing measures to slow the spread drags it out longer.  Then once you have it under control, you're likely to have a second outbreak at some point, meaning you're going to have to implement lockdowns and social distancing again.  Again dragging everything out longer.

yeah i mean for some people the idea of a sick person who - under normal circumstances - has every reason to expect to make a full recovery - will go to the hospital and the hospital will say sorry, we're full can't help you...the thought of that is barbaric. But hey like you said on the plus side the duration of the thing is shorter so like, small price to pay, right?

My point is only that for all of these measures that include locking countries down will need to last for 12-18 months for them to truly be effective.  That is from right out of the Imperial College report.  How long do you think people are going to be willing to endure the current situation of businesses being shut down?  Do you think people will stand for this being in effect from time to time over the next 12-18 months?

I'd have to relook at the Imperial College report but the biggest bonuses of delaying and spreading out infections are giving hospitals time to expand capacity and balance supply chains and also giving researchers time to learn more about how to treat and prevent the virus so you the system can handle future, more moderate surges

[420seriouscat69]

I had never heard of this Jesse Kelly guy but he has emerged as a leading shitbag through the whole pandemic

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1242450230114693122

What?  I was told by a very well informed person that nobody wants to die for dear leader.

STFU TBT. I want to get back to work for my family, not dear leader, jack wad. Go fly to China.

[420seriouscat69]

I find it very lol that a lot of you who are still getting paid doing jack crap at home are the ones who want this to go for months.

[420seriouscat69]

They’ll find somebody for half your cost soon, TBT. Keep lol’ing at the economy side of this.

[steve dave]

Get this to our old AF university president to share with his old AF friends immediately


https://twitter.com/alex_kirshner/status/1242482391404462081


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[catastrophe]

Ol Miss got game

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1242448985828319233

 

This sure seems like a direct respnse to Trump.

[MakeItRain]

Why are we doing a trillion dollars if we are all back to normal in 3 weeks?

We're not going back to normal in three weeks, no one thinks that. Trump advocating for and subsequently signing various stimulus bills indicate that he doesn't think so either.

I think a large majority of dems are unnecessarily freaking out about Trump's diarrhea of the mouth. He has said insane, stupid crap literally every single day. The freak out over sending people back to work next week is cherry picking. He hadn't done crap and will continue not to do crap.

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1242286046252941312

His words matter more than anyone's, really. And most of the stupid crap he says is just childish bullshit, suggesting that everyone goes back to work puts pressure on governors who probably shouldn't yet and gets him off the hook. It'll probably work too.

They didn't listen to him when deciding to act before the federal government did, why would they change midstream and start suddenly following his suggestions? From what I'm understanding many of these governors are meeting every day, these meetings likely drive policy much more than rantings of a mad man. I am not saying that they will all ignore him, looking at you Ron Desantis, but he hasn't had influence to this point, there's no evidence to suggest that's going to start now.

I think the governors will still mostly be doing the right things, but he is going to turn a lot of people against the governors - making measures to slow the virus less popular and making enforcement more difficult. He might not influence the governors, it's his fans that are influenced.

Also his lack of action was a huge rough ridin' problem from the start, as is asking states to bid against each other for PPE and bullshit like that. There needs to be coordination and leadership from the federal level.

This is all true, my push back on yesterday is on people who acted like his tone changed, he hasn't taken this seriously at any point in the process. I don't think he's capable of understanding the enormity of the situation. It's without precedent so he has nothing to reference and he's too simple to deal with new sources of information.