CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[Kat Kid]

it really is fitting that ksuw gets his ski vacation inconvenienced and builds an entire victimization world view around it. good stuff.

[steve dave]

it really is fitting that ksuw gets his ski vacation inconvenienced and builds an entire victimization world view around it. good stuff.

he really hates the crap out of little girls as well, which is incredibly on brand

[8manpick]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

[420seriouscat69]

What are all these dumb governors doing!? The people need to go out to eat and get drinks with friends and not worry about it!


https://twitter.com/arashmarkazi/status/1239297929354956800

Lol. Man goes out to eat = CUT HIS rough ridin' HEAD OFF! Man flies during pandemic = “No big deal, let me tell you all about how disgusting ppl are during this time tho!...” Clown!

[Justwin]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Epidemiologists and disease modelers studying Covid-19 told Vox a more reliable global case fatality rate is about 1 percent — but there’s still a lot we have to learn about the disease. And even when we better understand how deadly this virus is, it’s likely to look pretty different country to country.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/5/21165973/coronavirus-death-rate-explained

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. No there are no crowds.

Again do you have evidence that we shouldn't be concerned about this? I'd love to see something from the last two days that says we should just go about our normal business

There are many many intelligent, rational people writing intelligent, rational things on a daily basis about how to keep this latest craze in perspective. You would not consider any of it “evidence” - you’d rather rely upon doomsday computer simulations and journo-Twitter porn.

[chum1]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

They may have a much lower number BECAUSE of testing. We'll see!

[Phil Titola]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. Now there are no crowds.

I have no desire to live in a cave but every single thing I've read says that is the best course of action to protect my community. This is why I'm asking you for what different info you have read.  Why are we different than other countries ?

Other than I guess calling people girls as some sort of slight?

[Justwin]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

They may have a much lower number BECAUSE of testing. We'll see!

The testing itself doesn't actually lower the CFR.  The CFR is lower with more testing because more asymptomatic individuals or those with very mild symptoms are identified.  This increases the denominator of the CFR and lowers it.

[Justwin]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. Now there are no crowds.

I have no desire to live in a cave but every single thing I've read says that is the best course of action to protect my community. This is why I'm asking you for what different info you have read.  Why are we different than other countries ?

Other than I guess calling people girls as some sort of slight?

You can also lower the risk of someone in your community dying in a car accident by never driving.  Are you never going to drive again?

[Phil Titola]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. No there are no crowds.

Again do you have evidence that we shouldn't be concerned about this? I'd love to see something from the last two days that says we should just go about our normal business

There are many many intelligent, rational people writing intelligent, rational things on a daily basis about how to keep this latest craze in perspective. You would not consider any of it “evidence” - you’d rather rely upon doomsday computer simulations and journo-Twitter porn.

Shoot us some links bud.

[catastrophe]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

South Korea implemented testing and measures to curb the spread of the virus almost immediately after it became a thing in China.  Our numbers are going to skew more towards Italy given how underprepared we were.  That figure right now stands at 7%.  Granted the lack of testing is going to miss a lot of asymptomatic cases, but the whole point of social distancing/self isolation is in order to prevent hospitals from becoming overburdened like they are in Italy.  I don't think South Korea is a great comparison.

[Kat Kid]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

pointing to the low number of cases when we haven't tested hardly anyone, will mean the death rate here will be hard to calculate. But just then claiming a low death rate when we aren't doing nearly as many interventions as China or S. Korea is dumb.

Italy is the place to watch and the UK will be the test case for light interventions.  We will know more in a week or two.

[TheHamburglar]

Ugh he’s so rough ridin' stupid


https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1239302007317573635

How dare Trump try to tamp down hysteria. People should be listening to me as I try to ramp up hysteria!! This is what Twitter is for.

I’m curious what words in that comment you think are trying to tamp down hysteria.

[chum1]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

They may have a much lower number BECAUSE of testing. We'll see!

The testing itself doesn't actually lower the CFR.  The CFR is lower with more testing because more asymptomatic individuals or those with very mild symptoms are identified.  This increases the denominator of the CFR and lowers it.

Did you think I thought the test is the same as a cure?

[Phil Titola]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. Now there are no crowds.

I have no desire to live in a cave but every single thing I've read says that is the best course of action to protect my community. This is why I'm asking you for what different info you have read.  Why are we different than other countries ?

Other than I guess calling people girls as some sort of slight?

You can also lower the risk of someone in your community dying in a car accident by never driving.  Are you never going to drive again?

I don't drive on a daily basis but I get your point. Yes there is always risks no matter what you do. This (social isolation) seems much more impactful to my community with very little effort from me

[TheHamburglar]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. Now there are no crowds.

I have no desire to live in a cave but every single thing I've read says that is the best course of action to protect my community. This is why I'm asking you for what different info you have read.  Why are we different than other countries ?

Other than I guess calling people girls as some sort of slight?

You can also lower the risk of someone in your community dying in a car accident by never driving.  Are you never going to drive again?

I don't drive on a daily basis but I get your point. Yes there is always risks no matter what you do. This (social isolation) seems much more impactful to my community with very little effort from me

We also have hundreds of risk based driving regulations to mitigate those deaths., just like risk based decisions to help reduce the risk of covid.

[Justwin]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

They may have a much lower number BECAUSE of testing. We'll see!

The testing itself doesn't actually lower the CFR.  The CFR is lower with more testing because more asymptomatic individuals or those with very mild symptoms are identified.  This increases the denominator of the CFR and lowers it.

Did you think I thought the test is the same as a cure?

Not as a cure, but why did you capitalize because?  That implies you see the testing as actually lowering the CFR while than just increasing the accuracy which lowers it.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

It is much more likely that the mortality rate is 0.5% than it is 3%.

I don't think you can conclude that at this point.

Based on S Korean numbers 0.5 seems more likely, and they’ve tested much more extensively.  Note that 0.5% would still be horrendous here.  Fortunately we seem to be taking some action now, hopefully we aren’t too late.

South Korea implemented testing and measures to curb the spread of the virus almost immediately after it became a thing in China.  Our numbers are going to skew more towards Italy given how underprepared we were.  That figure right now stands at 7%.  Granted the lack of testing is going to miss a lot of asymptomatic cases, but the whole point of social distancing/self isolation is in order to prevent hospitals from becoming overburdened like they are in Italy.  I don't think South Korea is a great comparison.

Italy has both a horrifically old population (the key risk demo) and shitty healthcare. Exactly the kind of hysteria I’m talking about. But I won’t call you a little girl because I think I’ve made my point.

[Justwin]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. Now there are no crowds.

I have no desire to live in a cave but every single thing I've read says that is the best course of action to protect my community. This is why I'm asking you for what different info you have read.  Why are we different than other countries ?

Other than I guess calling people girls as some sort of slight?

You can also lower the risk of someone in your community dying in a car accident by never driving.  Are you never going to drive again?

I don't drive on a daily basis but I get your point. Yes there is always risks no matter what you do. This (social isolation) seems much more impactful to my community with very little effort from me

We also have hundreds of risk based driving regulations to mitigate those deaths., just like risk based decisions to help reduce the risk of covid.

And those regulations are subjected to cost-benefit analyses before they are implemented.

[michigancat]

Seriously, the folks posting actions taken by government officials in response to hysteria as proof that the hysteria is justified is pretty incredible. But then, I guess Bernie Sanders was almost a thing for a while so there are a lot of crazy people out there.

Maybe we should just let people decide. If you want to huddle in your cave with your 196 rolls of charmin, that’s cool. Shutting down private businesses doesn’t seem legal or wise. I’m laughing at you hysterical little girls.

So this opinion of go out and do what you want is based on what exactly? That you find it funny people bought too much TP? (I agree those idiots did buy too much TP)

I assume you are smarter than that though so what else?

Again, if you want to live in a cave, go ahead. Stop shuttering businesses. Just because you dumbasses are behaving like scared little girls doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to go out to eat. I went skiing yesterday and it was amazingly low crowds - until the ducking governor closed the resorts today. No there are no crowds.

Again do you have evidence that we shouldn't be concerned about this? I'd love to see something from the last two days that says we should just go about our normal business

There are many many intelligent, rational people writing intelligent, rational things on a daily basis about how to keep this latest craze in perspective. You would not consider any of it “evidence” - you’d rather rely upon doomsday computer simulations and journo-Twitter porn.

Shoot us some links bud.

Yes, I would love to see these, too!

[TheHamburglar]

Guys, let’s just see how many people die, then we can do a proper risk assessment before we implement controls instead of using the data we have now. Also, if they’re too old to ski they don’t count.

[Institutional Control]

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1239308831122997251?s=21.


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[TheHamburglar]

Now this guy is questioning Jerry Fallwell Jr’s money grab tactics? This is his turning point?

[Justwin]

Guys, let’s just see how many people die, then we can do a proper risk assessment before we implement controls instead of using the data we have now. Also, if they’re too old to ski they don’t count.

If only people were using the data we have now and critically thinking about the costs and benefits of different actions.

Instead, everything is being directed by public health people and epidemiologists.  They are great for providing information on public health and epidemics, but they view the problem through a narrow prism where the only objective in life is slowing the spread of a disease or limiting the number of deaths.  They are not so great at balancing those benefits with the costs and no decision makers are actually considering the costs and benefits when implementing these policies.  They are not even considering the number of deaths they will cause through increased suicides, depression, increased alcohol consumption, increased drug use, etc.