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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1375 on: March 17, 2020, 07:31:24 AM »
KSUW: would like to hear your predictions on the American deaths resulting from COVID-19 when it’s all said and done, as well as what projected number you think would justify the measures we’re taking right now. TIA.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1378 on: March 17, 2020, 08:03:15 AM »
60 million Americans caught H1N1 and it killed 12,000. Somehow we weathered that storm without destroying our economy.

US death toll for COVID still under 100 (more than half of which from a cluster of nursing homes in Washington state), reported cases under 5,000 (let’s speculate 100k unreported). Meanwhile we’re plunging our country into a depression. Great work, chicken littles.

AP: Coronavirus Shutdown Threatens Jobs



Instead of just calling you a rough ridin' idiot, let me expand a bit.

Let's just use your 60 Million number infected with 12,000 deaths.  That expands out to a .02% mortality rate.  COVID-19 has been reported to have between a 1-3% mortality rate.

If we hit the same amount of infected people that is between 600,000-1,800,000 deaths with the same amount of infected people, with no vaccine.  So while you are a giant dumbass, that really doesn't do it justice.  You are a legit rough ridin' idiot.

Oh ok - it’s been ”reported!” :runaway: Let’s take the current US numbers. Yes, 81 out of 4,500 is 1.8%. But do you really honestly believe only 4,500 have been infected? You must realize the real number of infections - the vast majority of which are so mild they will likely never be confirmed - is likely many, many times greater than that. Which is the whole freaking point.

But do you really honestly believe only 4,500 have been infected?
No, there are many multitudes more than what have been reported, which makes it even worse.

You must realize the real number of infections - the vast majority of which are so mild they will likely never be confirmed - is likely many, many times greater than that.
Yeah, and guess what you rough ridin' idiot, many of those people are unknowingly spreading it. They are seeing their grandparents and interacting with MANY others who actually are in danger.

I mean it doesn't surprise me that you can self own yourself, but the extent to which you are is absolutely incredible.

So... first you cite a “reported” death rate of 1-3%. Next you backtrack and basically agree that the death rate will in all likelihood be much much lower. And finally you concede that this death rate is highly concentrated among a certain high risk demographic. Good, so at least we’re in basic agreement on that.

So all we really disagree about is whether this is worth driving the country into a depression over. For that I would encourage you to seek some perspective. However grim, you might consider all the other hazards in life for people over 70 or with serious medical issues for which we don’t shut down businesses, lay off millions, and implode the markets.

Read this. https://issuesinsights.com/2020/03/16/panic-never-helped-any-pandemic-and-wont-start-now/

Actually, we aren’t really in agreement about anything. I’m living in an actual reality while you live in fantasy land. I’m done trying to convince you of anything because it’s hopeless. Try and not visit any at risk relatives for awhile and just use FaceTime.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1379 on: March 17, 2020, 08:04:29 AM »
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1380 on: March 17, 2020, 08:12:29 AM »
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1381 on: March 17, 2020, 08:24:15 AM »
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1382 on: March 17, 2020, 08:25:07 AM »
60 million Americans caught H1N1 and it killed 12,000. Somehow we weathered that storm without destroying our economy.

US death toll for COVID still under 100 (more than half of which from a cluster of nursing homes in Washington state), reported cases under 5,000 (let’s speculate 100k unreported). Meanwhile we’re plunging our country into a depression. Great work, chicken littles.

AP: Coronavirus Shutdown Threatens Jobs



Instead of just calling you a rough ridin' idiot, let me expand a bit.

Let's just use your 60 Million number infected with 12,000 deaths.  That expands out to a .02% mortality rate.  COVID-19 has been reported to have between a 1-3% mortality rate.

If we hit the same amount of infected people that is between 600,000-1,800,000 deaths with the same amount of infected people, with no vaccine.  So while you are a giant dumbass, that really doesn't do it justice.  You are a legit rough ridin' idiot.

Oh ok - it’s been ”reported!” :runaway: Let’s take the current US numbers. Yes, 81 out of 4,500 is 1.8%. But do you really honestly believe only 4,500 have been infected? You must realize the real number of infections - the vast majority of which are so mild they will likely never be confirmed - is likely many, many times greater than that. Which is the whole freaking point.

Good to know that 100% of the people who get the flu either go to the doctor or document it with the CDC some other way.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1384 on: March 17, 2020, 09:31:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1239780699189673985

i think this is the main thing.  when you can test at scale, most of society can function fairly normally.

I need help thinking this through.  If they think many pass it without symptoms how do we go about testing at scale and a more normal functioning society. 

If we do shut this thing down for the most part with our current social isolation, there are still going to be fringe elements of it out there that could blow up just as fast.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1385 on: March 17, 2020, 09:45:56 AM »
60 million Americans caught H1N1 and it killed 12,000. Somehow we weathered that storm without destroying our economy.

US death toll for COVID still under 100 (more than half of which from a cluster of nursing homes in Washington state), reported cases under 5,000 (let’s speculate 100k unreported). Meanwhile we’re plunging our country into a depression. Great work, chicken littles.

AP: Coronavirus Shutdown Threatens Jobs



Instead of just calling you a rough ridin' idiot, let me expand a bit.

Let's just use your 60 Million number infected with 12,000 deaths.  That expands out to a .02% mortality rate.  COVID-19 has been reported to have between a 1-3% mortality rate.

If we hit the same amount of infected people that is between 600,000-1,800,000 deaths with the same amount of infected people, with no vaccine.  So while you are a giant dumbass, that really doesn't do it justice.  You are a legit rough ridin' idiot.

Oh ok - it’s been ”reported!” :runaway: Let’s take the current US numbers. Yes, 81 out of 4,500 is 1.8%. But do you really honestly believe only 4,500 have been infected? You must realize the real number of infections - the vast majority of which are so mild they will likely never be confirmed - is likely many, many times greater than that. Which is the whole freaking point.

Good to know that 100% of the people who get the flu either go to the doctor or document it with the CDC some other way.

The CDC’s numbers are projections for exactly this reason.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1388 on: March 17, 2020, 10:44:34 AM »
politicians are just weathervanes bro

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1389 on: March 17, 2020, 10:46:51 AM »
Trump has McDonalds and BK on this thing.


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1390 on: March 17, 2020, 10:47:45 AM »
Friendship with Putin cancelled. Now Cuomo is best friend.


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1392 on: March 17, 2020, 11:23:03 AM »
watched just a little bit of the press conference and the grossest thing is to see folks like Pence having to kiss Trump's ass with everything they say and do. and it's like blatant

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1393 on: March 17, 2020, 11:25:40 AM »
"as I said this morning on Fox and Friends" lmao

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1395 on: March 17, 2020, 11:53:02 AM »
It's really interesting to see this UBI/$1000 check discussion play out. Trump and Munchin were like "duh rich people don't need it as much". Hmm.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1397 on: March 17, 2020, 12:06:33 PM »
of course not, luckily they won't have to. there will be available testing, basic hygiene practices, spacing standards, more ventilators and beds, etc. the world will go back to essentially business as usual with just minor inconveniences and costs.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1398 on: March 17, 2020, 12:17:38 PM »
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/17/21181694/coronavirus-covid-19-lockdowns-end-how-long-months-years

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/16/social-distancing-coronavirus/


Do you all really think people are going to be willing to keep this up for 12-18 months?

How long will Trump advocate for shutdown?  Trumpers will do whatever he says

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1399 on: March 17, 2020, 12:18:27 PM »
Right. The distancing measures right now are purely to fill the gap while testing becomes available and we (hopefully) avoid an initial peak in cases so high that people die due to inadequate care.