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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #150 on: November 29, 2021, 03:29:38 PM »
What would you guys think about David Beaty on this offensive staff.
I like it quite a bit because I think he's a decent recruiter

How do you figure? Did he land some big fishes at A&M that I'm unaware of.

I think it would be silly to give a wide receivers coach who hasn't worked in three years the keys to a P5 offense.

I don’t think making him the WR coach is exactly handing him the keys

Ah, I thought y'all were talking about the OC. Is he accomplished enough as a recruiter to be excited to hire a 51 year old WR coach who hasn't worked in 3 years?

I think he worked in some capacity at Texas in 2019.  Would think his Texas HS recruiting ties are still decent as well.

He had that analyst job for like 2 days, KU messing that up became part of the lawsuit.
https://www.hookem.com/2020/04/15/report-kansas-ad-cautioned-texas-hiring-former-football-coach-david-beaty/
https://footballscoop.com/news/david-beaty-jeff-long-kept-me-from-getting-hired-at-texas

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #151 on: November 29, 2021, 03:32:22 PM »
What would you guys think about David Beaty on this offensive staff.
I like it quite a bit because I think he's a decent recruiter

How do you figure? Did he land some big fishes at A&M that I'm unaware of.

A couple, yeah.




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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2021, 03:34:58 PM »
if he doesn't have it in him to fire mess, it's over for him. but ksu embraced the culture of hiring their best buds, so we kind of deserve it.
Yep. And Gene doesn't have the stones to tell him Mess has to go

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #153 on: November 29, 2021, 04:41:33 PM »
if he doesn't have it in him to fire mess, it's over for him. but ksu embraced the culture of hiring their best buds, so we kind of deserve it.
Yep. And Gene doesn't have the stones to tell him Mess has to go

My worst fear is that this is true and ends up happening. If so, might as well give up on KSU football.

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #154 on: November 29, 2021, 04:42:42 PM »
if he doesn't have it in him to fire mess, it's over for him. but ksu embraced the culture of hiring their best buds, so we kind of deserve it.
Yep. And Gene doesn't have the stones to tell him Mess has to go

My worst fear is that this is true and ends up happening. If so, might as well give up on KSU football.

if that's all it takes you should just give it up now

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #156 on: November 29, 2021, 10:13:54 PM »
Howard being our second best option at QB this year is a problem.  Whether Mess or Klein is responsible for that, I don’t know.  But I think blame probably falls on one/both of them.

I think we could probably upgrade both. 


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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #157 on: November 29, 2021, 10:57:57 PM »
Why is a coach who is 19 and 16, with a losing conference record allowed to further let this program go into the dumpster? Oh yes, he was lost 10 of his last 17 games. If Kleeman does not want to fire Courtney then he too should lose his job.

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #158 on: November 29, 2021, 11:08:12 PM »
Lol

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Offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Courtney Messingham and running backs coach Kenith Pope have been relieved of their duties, Rhoads announced in a school release Sunday afternoon.
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The Cyclones quarterbacks were inconsistent throughout much of the year. Quarterback Sam Richardson did not progress as expected during his sophomore season

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/10064660/iowa-state-cyclones-fire-offensive-coordinator-courtney-messingham-running-backs-coach-kenith-pope

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« Reply #159 on: November 29, 2021, 11:23:50 PM »
I think we will see Messingham “retire”, Klein take a job at another school, and Ray get fired. 
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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #160 on: November 30, 2021, 12:09:38 AM »
Why is a coach who is 19 and 16, with a losing conference record allowed to further let this program go into the dumpster? Oh yes, he was lost 10 of his last 17 games. If Kleeman does not want to fire Courtney then he too should lose his job.

lol, be more dramatic, Jesus Christ.

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #161 on: November 30, 2021, 12:12:48 AM »
I think we will see Messingham “retire”, Klein take a job at another school, and Ray get fired.
Retiring in your mid 50’s sounds amazing.
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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #162 on: November 30, 2021, 09:55:08 AM »
Step away for health related reasons is the move

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #163 on: November 30, 2021, 10:43:17 AM »
Spending more time with family etc…
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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #164 on: November 30, 2021, 08:16:34 PM »
Don't we need to keep Klein around in some capacity so that we are a lock for his expected progeny?

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« Reply #165 on: November 30, 2021, 08:36:06 PM »
Spending more time with family etc…
Opening up a spot for ol Tim Polasek to come in and run the offense?
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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #166 on: December 01, 2021, 11:04:10 AM »
Don't we need to keep Klein around in some capacity so that we are a lock for his expected progeny?

And now I'm wondering just exactly what the progeny of an M1 Abrams cross bred with a Lamborghini Countach 'would' look like...

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #167 on: December 01, 2021, 11:12:37 AM »
Don't we need to keep Klein around in some capacity so that we are a lock for his expected progeny?

And now I'm wondering just exactly what the progeny of an M1 Abrams cross bred with a Lamborghini Countach 'would' look like...

I'm betting it looks like the dude in the Twisted Metal video game that had wheels for arms.




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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #168 on: December 01, 2021, 11:45:23 AM »
Probably should start getting familiar with Tim Polasek as future OC.  I think the Wells ship has sailed.
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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #169 on: December 01, 2021, 11:56:26 AM »
Probably should start getting familiar with Tim Polasek as future OC.  I think the Wells ship has sailed.

I don't think Wells was a clear upgrade but Tim Polasek definitely isn't a clear upgrade

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #170 on: December 01, 2021, 11:58:03 AM »
Probably should start getting familiar with Tim Polasek as future OC.  I think the Wells ship has sailed.
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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #171 on: December 01, 2021, 11:58:28 AM »
Probably should start getting familiar with Tim Polasek as future OC.  I think the Wells ship has sailed.

I don't think Wells was a clear upgrade but Tim Polasek definitely isn't a clear upgrade

Won’t get an argument out of me on that one, not a name that gets me excited.
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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #172 on: December 01, 2021, 12:02:18 PM »
I'd be particularly concerned if we fire the initial NDSU OC to hire a new NDSU coach.  I would think the Gene/CK would avoid that.

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #173 on: December 01, 2021, 12:03:11 PM »
I'd be particularly concerned if we fire the initial NDSU OC to hire a new NDSU coach.  I would think the Gene/CK would avoid that.

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Re: Courtney Messingham is a proven loser
« Reply #174 on: December 01, 2021, 12:17:56 PM »
I'd be particularly concerned if we fire the initial NDSU OC to hire a new NDSU coach.  I would think the Gene/CK would avoid that.

Lol

pffffft.  The mole is going to hand out KSU money to his loser friends as long as he is here.