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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2022, 04:21:37 PM »
I will admit that my perception of this may be colored by living in an very red area in Kansas.

it's pretty depressing in salina, feel like it's 20:1 yes:no yard signs

A friend of mine visited her dad in lindsborg and said she was pleasantly surprised with the no support. She convinced him to put out a no sign and he's one of those crazy republicans with a literal armory bunker with hundreds of guns.

Another, granted anecdotal point that makes me thing this will be very close.

I also know it's just my circle of friends on facebook, but I have a pretty significant group of Catholics in it, and again when Roe was overturned only a handful of people were happy, and none were women, and most did not say anything about it. In fact the only woman I know was happy is a fairly over religious lutheran.

Also had some friends report in on the day of election in lenexa, they said it was a lengthy wait to vote, which tells me turnout is going to be bananas, which given that 99k joco have already voted, may also push it over the edge.
It is kind of interesting. Abortion has been the number one issue for Republican primary voters in KS for as long as I can remember. Bill Graves is about the last Republican I can recall  winning statewide office who was not explicitly pro-life.  It will be interesting to see how big of an issue abortion is in terms of driving voter turn-out in the post-Dobbs world. My sense is that most people who feel strongly about abortion (pro-life or pro-choice) already vote at a pretty high rate.

Yeah, a whole lot of the republicans that I know have always described themselves as single issue abortion voters, so it's surprising to me, too.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2022, 04:23:25 PM »
I think KS has the largest ratio of single issue abortion voters in the USA.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2022, 04:33:26 PM »
I think KS has the largest ratio of single issue abortion voters in the USA.
Is it significantly different in Nebraska?

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2022, 04:45:42 PM »
If it does pass, the governor's race will determine how insane the abortion law ends up being. It's hard to pass too much crazy when you need a 2/3 vote.
Derek Schmidt will win the governor's race easily. I would be shocked if he does not sign any bill that shows up on his desk. Will be interesting to see if he gives any specifics about restrictions that he would support during the general election campaign.

Conversing with my super Republican (texts me 5-7 pit worthy memes a week) about Governor race.

He shocked me by explaining that Schmidt is an idiot and Kelly had done nothing to disqualify her from a second term.

I was shocked.

So it will be interesting.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2022, 05:03:39 PM »
I think KS has the largest ratio of single issue abortion voters in the USA.

Well, if this amendment doesn't pass, we will know that most of the people who claim to be single issue abortion voters are actually full of crap.

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Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #80 on: August 02, 2022, 05:15:19 PM »
I think less “full of crap” and more uninformed, which is what you would expect from a single issue voter.

Although to give them the benefit of the doubt, I think even most “single issue” abortion voters would have preferred a Supreme Court decision that still required abortion to be legal where a fetus was not viable or a mother’s health was determined by a doctor to be at risk.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2022, 05:35:56 PM »
I think less “full of crap” and more uninformed, which is what you would expect from a single issue voter.

it's easy to say you're a single issue voter.  actually being one requires enormous discipline.
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #85 on: August 02, 2022, 06:33:09 PM »
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2022, 07:10:33 PM »
The yard signs are out of control in my neighborhood

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2022, 07:30:20 PM »
The yard signs are out of control in my neighborhood

sound rough

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #88 on: August 02, 2022, 07:34:31 PM »
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #89 on: August 02, 2022, 07:36:34 PM »
Updated numbers if you are wanting to follow along

https://www.npr.org/sections/2022%20primary%20election%20results/2022/08/02/1108929419/kansas-primary-election-results


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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2022, 07:45:32 PM »
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2022, 07:54:50 PM »
Hopefully joco isn't delinquent in getting stuff in this time
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2022, 08:03:50 PM »
Riley county so far  :surprised:  :Woohoo:
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #94 on: August 02, 2022, 08:04:30 PM »
Hopefully joco isn't delinquent in getting stuff in this time

I don't mind it once things start to tighten up. They're called dumps. Huge, massive dumps that will swing back towards the "NO" side.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #95 on: August 02, 2022, 08:07:37 PM »
Riley county so far  :surprised:  :Woohoo:

Douglas County is at 88% "NO" with 65% of votes in  :drool:

We're doing our part. Need to build a huge lead before the pud county results trickle in.

Erstwhile, stevedaveland is at 77% "YES"

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2022, 08:08:49 PM »
Riley county so far  :surprised:  :Woohoo:

Douglas County is at 88% "NO" with 65% of votes in  :drool:

We're doing our part. Need to build a huge lead before the pud county results trickle in.

Erstwhile, stevedaveland is at 77% "YES"

 :cheers:   and still 60 votes in stevedaveland for no, but yeah, oh well
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2022, 08:21:21 PM »
Still far too early, but, that's exactly the vibe I'm getting
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2022, 08:26:31 PM »
The liberal bastions of Salina (Saline) and Hutchinson (Reno) look to be breaking "NO"  :sdeek: