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Re: Claws’s Legacy
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2019, 09:53:10 AM »
It makes me sad to know he never won a tournament game.
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Re: Claws’s Legacy
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2019, 10:00:15 AM »
It makes me sad to know he never won a tournament game.
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2019, 10:05:27 AM »
I feel bad about his foot and I'm just not saying that.  I'm not sure what he's saving it for?  Any big man we've had that have been that talented I think would play;

Fred McCoy  = play
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Big white kid from wichita that was supposed to be hot crap but really wasn't = play
Matt Siebrandt  = play  (once got a tat before a game and still suited.)

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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2019, 10:05:55 AM »
Well that and Wake Forest counts on paper too. I'm sure that's what chings was hinting at tho however.

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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2019, 10:07:58 AM »
Get out of here with that, what a garbage thing to say.
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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2019, 10:40:04 AM »
How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.

Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?

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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2019, 10:43:06 AM »
Really fun player to watch. 1st team in back to back years is impressive, especially with most of this year on a sore foot.

I feel awful for him that this type of injury happened again. He won't get a chance to leave the type of legacy he could have because of something completely out of his control. It sucks.

However, he was part of a league title team and a really good 4 year player. Probably not quite rafter worthy IMO, but will be one of my favorites along with Barry for a long time.

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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2019, 10:54:35 AM »
How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.

Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?
Last year we had 4 sweet sixteen teams and 3 elite 8 teams from the conference, so I'm not sure the latter checks out.

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« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2019, 10:58:56 AM »
How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.

Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?

A weaker conference compared to when? I think the big 12 was as good this year as it has been historically.
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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2019, 11:01:42 AM »
How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.

Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?

The Big 12 lacks a top dog on par with the ACC, SEC, or even Big 10 this year, but top to bottom the league is still very good. Still rated 1 or 2 in any and all metrics out here.

As for star power, probably a fair point. A couple guys in the mock draft first round and a few more in the 2nd, not a ton of star power. If Dean had remained healthy this year and last I have to think he'd be getting 2nd round mentions.

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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2019, 11:12:43 AM »
I don't really care that much, but imo there is no way he should have his jersey retired.  Barry I guess I will listen to arguments about.
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Re: Claws’s Legacy
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2019, 11:30:34 AM »
How many players have we had put together back to back big 12 first team seasons? I think it’s only Jake and Dean.

Is this a sign of a great player or a weaker conference?
Last year we had 4 sweet sixteen teams and 3 elite 8 teams from the conference, so I'm not sure the latter checks out.

Good point

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Re: Claws’s Legacy
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2019, 11:33:42 AM »
Dean has been a great player, and I have enjoyed watching him on the court.  I think Dean had potential to be even better than what we have seen if he didn't have these lingering foot injuries.  Super sad.

That being said, I don't think his jersey will be in the rafters.

Also...someone mentioned strength of conference.  That is hard to gauge for me, but crazy looking back and seeing KU win it last year with 1 more loss than KSU/Tech this year....and they won it by 2 games.
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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2019, 11:37:38 AM »
I don't really care that much, but imo there is no way he should have his jersey retired.  Barry I guess I will listen to arguments about.

Agreed.

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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2019, 11:45:39 AM »
Would like to see them both but honestly I’m not sure what the general metrics for being deserving are.  I think we have had that discussion before but it’s been long enough that I don’t remember the general consensus. I would guess that Dean was a better player in advanced metrics but _fan probably has the data.
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Re: Claws’s Legacy
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2019, 11:50:19 AM »
There's no correlation between whose jerseys are hanging or will hang in the fOOD and who were the GOAT EMAWs.

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Re: Claws’s Legacy
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2019, 11:52:34 AM »
How deep we go in the tournament could potentially have a huge impact on how Brown is remembered. (As it should!)

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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2019, 12:33:25 PM »
Brown will be in the record books for a long time. I think he deserves an all time spot regardless of what happens this tournament.

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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2019, 12:40:21 PM »
I don't really care that much, but imo there is no way he should have his jersey retired.  Barry I guess I will listen to arguments about.

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Re: Claws’s Legacy
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2019, 12:47:44 PM »
I will listen to arguments on a Wade giant bobblehead, not on jersey retirement.

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« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2019, 01:07:32 PM »
a pretty big plus that wade has going in his favor is that he is a kansas kid. for some reason that makes a difference in how people think of players. like, people love sproles and jordy but they love them a lot more because they both grew up in ks and went to ks highschools. if barry was from abilene and dean was from wisconsin, it would be amazing how much more love bbj would get and how much less dean would get. boom there's a new take for everyone.

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« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2019, 01:10:15 PM »
I think Dean will be a pretty great b-ball alum as well. I think we will see him at a lot of Cats games/events going forward.
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« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2019, 01:14:17 PM »
I will listen to arguments on a Wade giant bobblehead, not on jersey retirement.

This seems like a good compromise.  Would like for him to be wearing a dean wolf shirt.
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« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2019, 01:24:44 PM »
I think Dean will be a pretty great b-ball alum as well. I think we will see him at a lot of Cats games/events going forward.
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« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2019, 01:31:39 PM »
a pretty big plus that wade has going in his favor is that he is a kansas kid. for some reason that makes a difference in how people think of players. like, people love sproles and jordy but they love them a lot more because they both grew up in ks and went to ks highschools. if barry was from abilene and dean was from wisconsin, it would be amazing how much more love bbj would get and how much less dean would get. boom there's a new take for everyone.

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