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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #200 on: March 26, 2018, 02:17:31 PM »
UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney  team we've beaten in 30+ years

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #201 on: March 26, 2018, 05:20:56 PM »
It's pretty fascinating to watch the tennis match between luck and the stats side of this talk. The "we didn't have to play Virginia" and the "We did this without Wade"

Just be happy an E8 happened, a second weekend happened, and that we beat Calipari. oscar's teams seem to always crap the bed around 1 out of 3 or 4 games at least, and this time it happened against a team that shot lights out from 3 in a great chance for a FF. Of course it sucks, but it happened, and I will never be ashamed of this weird but fun E8 run. Heck, we might get another S16/E8 or if luck permits get the FF next year. You should always want more, but guise, enjoy the glow of team that shut down Marcus Foster, only 9 to beat a 6, and the first ksu-cats team that made a very happy Ernie Barrett by beating Kentucky.

I'm very happy that it happened. I don't think anyone is ashamed of the run. You are kidding yourself and setting yourself up for a major disappointment next year if you don't see how luck played a role in all of this, though.

Sure there is luck, and every team gets it, whether that is not facing VA or losing Wade for essentially the tourny. Also, no where did I say we will get a S16, E8 or FF, but that we have a chance. My expectation always regardless of how good our team is in the tourny is to make it to the 2nd weekend. Next year will be no different.
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #202 on: March 26, 2018, 07:13:59 PM »
UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney  team we've beaten in 30+ years

One coils say that, but they would be wrong.
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #203 on: March 26, 2018, 07:59:34 PM »
UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney  team we've beaten in 30+ years

One coils say that, but they would be wrong.


I think they are, they absolutely are but it really doesn't mean much given the relatively small sample size.

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« Reply #204 on: March 26, 2018, 08:04:29 PM »
Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.

This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #205 on: March 26, 2018, 08:15:23 PM »
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #206 on: March 26, 2018, 08:30:19 PM »
UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney  team we've beaten in 30+ years

One coils say that, but they would be wrong.


I think they are, they absolutely are but it really doesn't mean much given the relatively small sample size.

yea they are for sure

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #207 on: March 26, 2018, 09:15:02 PM »
Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.

This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.

would it be better if we called it the "easiest path to the Elite Eight of any 9 seed in history" instead of "lucky"?

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #208 on: March 26, 2018, 09:33:00 PM »
the luck deniers are just making crap up in their non stop attempts to defend oscar.  really shows how insecure some are in their love for oscar.  but I get it, I really do.


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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #209 on: March 26, 2018, 09:39:50 PM »
News flash, the entire tornament is a big cluster eff of randomness. 
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #210 on: March 26, 2018, 09:43:13 PM »
News flash, the entire tornament is a big cluster eff of randomness. 

answer my question

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #211 on: March 26, 2018, 09:47:59 PM »
I was replying to clams, not everything is about you
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #212 on: March 26, 2018, 11:42:28 PM »
Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.

This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.

would it be better if we called it the "easiest path to the Elite Eight of any 9 seed in history" instead of "lucky"?

Do whatever you want, that's a lot of qualifiers though.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #213 on: March 27, 2018, 01:04:10 AM »
Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.

This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.

would it be better if we called it the "easiest path to the Elite Eight of any 9 seed in history" instead of "lucky"?

Do whatever you want, that's a lot of qualifiers though.
Ok I'll stick with "lucky" then

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #214 on: March 27, 2018, 04:19:59 AM »
News flash, the entire tornament is a big cluster eff of randomness.

Exactly. It's why banking your fan feelings most entirely on the results of the tournament is foolhardy imo.
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #215 on: March 22, 2019, 06:31:09 PM »
maybe kstate will be a high seed next year.
I bet we're a 6

I was wrong!



What’s more likely:

Making the elite 8 again next year or not? 

The tournament is a giant crap shoot.  We got an enormous break with UMBC winning and turned it into a E8.  We got to play an 11 to go to the final 4 and lost.  We’ll be a 6 seed or something like that and get put out in the first or second round.

It's less of a crapshoot if you get a high seed. I think a first or second round exit sounds right next season.

I was right. :frown:

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