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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #700 on: March 23, 2021, 04:26:20 PM »
Working theory is that Bill quit recruiting (spending years developing relationships with kids/families etc) after the title. Whatever they needed seemed to just fall together after that. At least with bigs and wing players.


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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #701 on: March 23, 2021, 05:20:16 PM »
Going to play for KU at this point is like buying stock in GameStop. Party's over.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #702 on: March 24, 2021, 10:37:53 AM »
Nike is still paying top dollar, so if I am a 5 star, I am going to a Nike school, or a school with boosters who will pay top dollar despite the risk, so my Mom can start getting paid for being the world's greatest Mom ASAP!  There are still going to be kids who do not love their Mom as much and do not want the best for their Mom ASAP.  KU is still going to be a very, very attractive option for those kids.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #703 on: March 24, 2021, 10:45:47 AM »
Going to play for KU at this point is like buying stock in GameStop. Party's over.

That is amazing.

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« Reply #704 on: March 24, 2021, 11:20:10 AM »
not like it matters but technically it's a better time to buy stock in GameStop now, compared to when the party was going on.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #705 on: March 24, 2021, 12:55:54 PM »
I know it won't happen, but it would be amazing if they ran off Bill Self.

It would be double amazing if Self then went to Indiana and won a NC.

I feel like their amazing run of purchased dominance is coming to an end though.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #706 on: March 24, 2021, 01:00:35 PM »
Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #707 on: March 24, 2021, 08:37:45 PM »
Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.

Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?

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« Reply #708 on: March 24, 2021, 09:24:14 PM »
Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.

Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?

Indiana will win a NC within a decade.

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« Reply #709 on: March 24, 2021, 10:24:36 PM »
Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.

Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?

lol, really?

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« Reply #710 on: March 24, 2021, 10:42:38 PM »
Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.

Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?

Indiana will win a NC within a decade.

What? Do you have any idea how long ago 1987 was?

You'd have to put every single school on this list before you would Indiana.
Gonzaga
Baylor
Texas Tech
West Virginia
UCLA
Oregon
Alabama
Kentucky
Florida
Arkansas
Michigan
Illinois
Ohio State
Michigan State
Virginia
North Carolina
Duke
Florida State
Houston
Creighton
Villanova
UConn

I'm not even adding the programs clearly better but have NCAA issues looming, Kansas and Arizona. I'm also not adding schools I think have been consistently better than Indiana in the life of current high school and college students like Louisville, Memphis, Wichita State, USC, Iowa, Wisconsin, Texas, Oklahoma, and Syracuse.

Right now they don't have either the program or the coach. Even if they get Belein I still don't know if I would guarantee they are going to win a championship in a decade, he didn't at Michigan and he's 68 years old now, he isn't going to be coaching in a decade. They better throw all that Cuban money at Porter Mosier and hope he isn't a bust.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #711 on: March 25, 2021, 11:15:35 AM »
I mean, Texas rough ridin' Tech went to the E8 in year 2, and the Natty in year 3 with Beard.

College basketball programs can flip in just a couple years with the right hire.

All but a few P5's (the ones that can't keep the right coach for more than 1 or 2 years) can win a Natty in the next 10 years.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #712 on: March 25, 2021, 11:16:32 AM »
Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.

Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?

lol, really?


he donates almost nothing to the university though. and zero to sports. it enrages them. I don't believe he will leave them anything either.

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« Reply #713 on: March 25, 2021, 02:09:05 PM »
Indiana is never going to win a championship again. They're essentially Nebraska football, but in worse shape.

Does Nebraska have a Marc Cuban?

lol, really?


he donates almost nothing to the university though. and zero to sports. it enrages them. I don't believe he will leave them anything either.

Apparently Cuban didn't either, until he had to, that's if he even did so now.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/dont-expect-mark-cuban-to-fund-archie-millers-buyout/

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #714 on: April 02, 2021, 11:25:29 AM »


good move by both sides of this deal. just agree to power through it together.

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« Reply #715 on: April 02, 2021, 11:36:31 AM »


good move by both sides of this deal. just agree to power through it together.

College sports are such a dirty business. 

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« Reply #716 on: April 02, 2021, 01:24:21 PM »


good move by both sides of this deal. just agree to power through it together.

 :ROFL: Bill Self just worked the eff out of the school president

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #717 on: April 02, 2021, 01:32:19 PM »
What self-respecting AD would sign off on such a corrupt self-pardon (pun intended) ... oh, never mind.

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« Reply #718 on: April 02, 2021, 01:43:03 PM »
Likelihood they can get someone better than Self is pretty low, slugging out sanctions doesn't seem like a bad plan aside from the fact that the NCAA can easily blow it up.

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« Reply #719 on: April 02, 2021, 09:59:15 PM »
Likelihood they can get someone better than Self is pretty low, slugging out sanctions doesn't seem like a bad plan aside from the fact that the NCAA can easily blow it up.

NCAA can't do that. Even if they hit him with a show cause that just means someone else can't hire him. Dan Mullen is under a show cause right now that he got hit with while at Florida.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #720 on: April 03, 2021, 12:46:06 PM »
Some sort of multiple year post season ban would kind of blow it up. At least I'd assume that would be the outcome, but maybe Self would be okay with that and try and work in a backdoor way to win NITs?

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« Reply #721 on: April 03, 2021, 12:54:22 PM »
Some sort of multiple year post season ban would kind of blow it up. At least I'd assume that would be the outcome, but maybe Self would be okay with that and try and work in a backdoor way to win NITs?

I guess I don't know what "blow it up" means. Even with a multi year post season ban, I think the combination of Self and KU will be back. It will never be what it was, but they won't be Indiana as long as he's there because he's the right coach. I don't think that Townsend "retiring" will do much to stop them from being a contender in most years.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #722 on: April 03, 2021, 02:31:51 PM »
Some sort of multiple year post season ban would kind of blow it up. At least I'd assume that would be the outcome, but maybe Self would be okay with that and try and work in a backdoor way to win NITs?
Can they attend NITs with a post season ban?  :confused:

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #723 on: April 03, 2021, 03:56:24 PM »
Some sort of multiple year post season ban would kind of blow it up. At least I'd assume that would be the outcome, but maybe Self would be okay with that and try and work in a backdoor way to win NITs?
Can they attend NITs with a post season ban?  :confused:

Nope.

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Re: KU Basketball is Hurting
« Reply #724 on: April 05, 2021, 04:54:16 AM »
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