MEGA MAGA

[DQ12]

He is setting up a go fund me right now.

Probably.  I'd say let this kid be a martyr and see what we can do with some ks district court judge.  At this point, I'd rather make the move than be conservative about toeing the line with the (somewhat amorphous) campus speech jurisprudence.  Probably a loser, but that's ok.

[catastrophe]

Dlew’s 3 hour evolution ITT has been fun to watch.

[cfbandyman]

Man, see the comments on like Walter Neil Jr's post, AJ Parker, etc, are just disgusting.

[Spracne]

Racist speech, unless it fits into one of the narrowly drawn exceptions, is protected speech. You could always roll the dice like OU did a few years ago kicking out the racist frat guy and gambling that he wouldn't sue, but this guy seems like he wants a lawsuit. Also, colleges and universities are rightly scared shitless of having SCOTUS or a circuit court of appeals (other than the Ninth Circuit) opine on the constitutionality of campus speech codes.

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

[michigancat]

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

cool appreciate the insight

[Spracne]

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

cool appreciate the insight

You want to know the reasons?

[sonofdaxjones]

Racist speech, unless it fits into one of the narrowly drawn exceptions, is protected speech. You could always roll the dice like OU did a few years ago kicking out the racist frat guy and gambling that he wouldn't sue, but this guy seems like he wants a lawsuit. Also, colleges and universities are rightly scared shitless of having SCOTUS or a circuit court of appeals (other than the Ninth Circuit) opine on the constitutionality of campus speech codes.

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

Say uh Spracs, why would colleges be afraid of the non 9th circuit courts and SCOTUS getting involved in campus speech codes?

[michigancat]

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

cool appreciate the insight

You want to know the reasons?

I'd honestly be curious

[cfbandyman]

Not to get too OT, but what a week nationally for K-State, an article featuring the football team re: rona in the NYT, and now this.

[catastrophe]

It’s called guerrilla fundraising. The KSU emergency fund ad response was just too anemic.

[cfbandyman]

Reading the KC Star story on this kid from a few years back about him leaving turning point because it wasn't radical enough for him to start his little hate group club is pretty amazing.

[DQ12]

Dlew’s 3 hour evolution ITT has been fun to watch.

Thinking about things for a while and hearing others' opinions sometimes helps shape your own opinion.

[DQ12]

Racist speech, unless it fits into one of the narrowly drawn exceptions, is protected speech. You could always roll the dice like OU did a few years ago kicking out the racist frat guy and gambling that he wouldn't sue, but this guy seems like he wants a lawsuit. Also, colleges and universities are rightly scared shitless of having SCOTUS or a circuit court of appeals (other than the Ninth Circuit) opine on the constitutionality of campus speech codes.

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

Assuming K-State would lose in the district court (which I assume they would), there's no reason to take it any higher, imo.   

[star seed 7]

I don't see why this has anything to do with the university and why it needs to take any action at all.

But apparently lots of other people do think that, so they do have to deal with it. Sucks.

[Trim]

This just needs some old-fashioned on-campus irl PI.

[michigancat]

I don't see why this has anything to do with the university and why it needs to take any action at all.

But apparently lots of other people do think that, so they do have to deal with it. Sucks.

it's about creating an environment where everyone (that isn't a racist POS) feels safe.

[star seed 7]

I guess I worded that wrong, I know why people want the university to take action, I just don't agree. A public university has no business in being the thought police.

[star seed 7]

This just needs some old-fashioned on-campus irl PI.

This is a perfectly acceptable consequence.

[wetwillie]

This just needs some old-fashioned on-campus irl PI.

I'd like to think he will be on the receiving end of unending amounts of that on campus

[420seriouscat69]

We're about to have our very own Kent State gun girl on campus this fall. Can't wait!

[star seed 7]

Who do you think is going to be shooting who?

[420seriouscat69]

Hope he does a bunch of videos of people harassing him. I'd thoroughly enjoy it. Maybe he crap his pants at a party too.

[Spracne]

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

cool appreciate the insight

You want to know the reasons?

I'd honestly be curious

I'm trying to gum up threads less with legal stuff, but "capable of repetition yet evading review" and "voluntary cessation" are two related examples of exceptions to the general standing and mootness doctrines. On the former, the idea is that some injuries are necessarily transitory in nature and likely to become unredressable before a case can be finally decided (Roe v. Wade is the classic example). On the latter, a defendant should not be allowed to manufacture mootness by ceasing its bad conduct once a suit is filed only to turn around and do the exact same thing once a case is dismissed as moot. Otherwise, the offensive conduct could never be addressed. Some other stuff too, but I don't want to get into it.

[Dugout DickStone]

For several reasons I won't explain here, I don't think it would work to simply expel him, wait to see if he sues, and then reinstate him and assert lack of standing.

cool appreciate the insight

You want to know the reasons?

I'd honestly be curious

I'm trying to gum up threads less with legal stuff, but "capable of repetition yet evading review" and "voluntary cessation" are two related examples of exceptions to the general standing and mootness doctrines. On the former, the idea is that some injuries are necessarily transitory in nature and likely to become unredressable before a case can be finally decided (Roe v. Wade is the classic example). On the latter, a defendant should not be allowed to manufacture mootness by ceasing its bad conduct once a suit is filed only to turn around and do the exact same thing once a case is dismissed as moot. Otherwise, the offensive conduct could never be addressed. Some other stuff too, but I don't want to get into it.

YEs.  I am still not sure who takes up this little grifter's case.  ACLU is the logical choice but maga grifters hate the ACLU.

[star seed 7]

The aclj is the Christian conservative aclu. Trump's lawyer that looks like @Tobias is a founder or something