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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2020, 02:02:05 PM »
I'd rather have Klieman.

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2020, 02:03:04 PM »
I'd rather have Klieman.
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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2020, 02:06:09 PM »
Man we were all face down ass up for Seth Latrell, what a time.
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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2020, 03:03:43 PM »
Man we were all face down ass up for Seth Latrell, what a time.

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2020, 05:02:52 PM »
Man we were all face down ass up for Seth Latrell, what a time.

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2020, 07:07:02 AM »
He is recruiting at a much higher level so I guess we will see
If he can translate that to more wins next year.

He's landed a few more four stars but isn't on another stratosphere like OU or Texas. The classes are close enough that depending on a couple busts and diamonds in the rough they could end up similar once they start playing.

true, but I think Brown brought in a better resume and P5 connections

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2020, 07:33:12 AM »
His last two classes will have a combined 18 players 5.7 or above compared to our 2.  The gap in talent is huge. These are the players that turn into NFL players at a high percentage(Risner, Shelley, Elijah Lee, Wyatt Hubert etc etc)
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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2020, 07:53:19 AM »
His last two classes will have a combined 18 players 5.7 or above compared to our 2.  The gap in talent is huge. These are the players that turn into NFL players at a high percentage(Risner, Shelley, Elijah Lee, Wyatt Hubert etc etc)

I mean for 2021 they have 10 players 5.6 or above and we have 9. Maybe 5.7 is the perfect magic line though

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« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2020, 08:33:41 AM »
His last two classes will have a combined 18 players 5.7 or above compared to our 2.  The gap in talent is huge. These are the players that turn into NFL players at a high percentage(Risner, Shelley, Elijah Lee, Wyatt Hubert etc etc)



I mean for 2021 they have 10 players 5.6 or above and we have 9. Maybe 5.7 is the perfect magic line though

It definitely is, 14/20 of the big 12’s draft picks last year were 5.7 or higher.  It’s not to say you won’t get difference makers at 5.6 (hell Deuce was 5.5) but the 5.7 or higher line consistently is where the difference makers are and WVU has collected a crap ton of them.
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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #84 on: December 07, 2020, 09:05:14 AM »
His last two classes will have a combined 18 players 5.7 or above compared to our 2.  The gap in talent is huge. These are the players that turn into NFL players at a high percentage(Risner, Shelley, Elijah Lee, Wyatt Hubert etc etc)



I mean for 2021 they have 10 players 5.6 or above and we have 9. Maybe 5.7 is the perfect magic line though

It definitely is, 14/20 of the big 12’s draft picks last year were 5.7 or higher.  It’s not to say you won’t get difference makers at 5.6 (hell Deuce was 5.5) but the 5.7 or higher line consistently is where the difference makers are and WVU has collected a crap ton of them.

I think Deuce is a great example of why WVU isn't necessarily on an entirely different level. It doesn't take a ton of 5.6 difference makers to cancel out the gap. Also the fact that Brown's 5.7's or above don't seem to be making an impact on a very average team. (Maybe some are, but not statistically. It could also be that Brown is holding them back for long term growth).

Also, I saw Seiler went to ODU with Rahne. Kind of an odd career move.

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« Reply #85 on: December 07, 2020, 09:06:55 AM »
I think we should probably watch the recruits play a game or two before deciding we aren't competing with West Virginia.

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« Reply #86 on: December 07, 2020, 09:23:20 AM »
I like klieman but i do think he could upgrade a couple assistant coaches for more dynamic recruiters. I would have loved to have gotten the young DL coach that NEB hired instead of the old one we hired.

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #87 on: December 07, 2020, 09:44:36 AM »
if herman gets canned maybe we can bring back andre coleman from howns down


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« Reply #88 on: December 07, 2020, 10:53:31 AM »
I think we should probably watch the recruits play a game or two before deciding we aren't competing with West Virginia.

0-2 is pretty good proof but 0-4 would certainly give us a better sample size.
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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #89 on: December 07, 2020, 11:20:24 AM »
Is nobody concerned that we're going to turn over like a quarter of our roster to transfers this year? Seems bad. Way more concerned about that than sub-optimal recruiting.
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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #90 on: December 07, 2020, 11:25:38 AM »
Will Jones pisses me off, to a lesser extent Tyrone Lewis does too.   Outside of that our attrition doesn’t bother me at all.
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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #91 on: December 07, 2020, 11:29:47 AM »
If I had to guess, a lot of Snyder guys/last second pick ups from CK's first class are using the extra elegability year to get out since things did not end up like they thought. Honestly, CK has succeeded much more than any of you ever thought he would. Most if you wanted Gene fired for making such a small timey hire. This year has just been one big cluster F and it is what it is. We'll move on, CK will continue to implement his system, and hopefully our assistants get better (or replaced with better).


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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2020, 11:35:52 AM »
I think we should probably watch the recruits play a game or two before deciding we aren't competing with West Virginia.

0-2 is pretty good proof but 0-4 would certainly give us a better sample size.

7-10 (likely 7-11) vs 9-9 is far more meaningful

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2020, 12:02:21 PM »
I like klieman but i do think he could upgrade a couple assistant coaches for more dynamic recruiters. I would have loved to have gotten the young DL coach that NEB hired instead of the old one we hired.

Again with this crap, they've had one class man, one. Also just because someone is young does not mean they are a good recruiter. We also have two defensive line coaches, so who is the old one you're referring to and how has he done recruiting?

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2020, 12:13:46 PM »
I think we should probably watch the recruits play a game or two before deciding we aren't competing with West Virginia.

0-2 is pretty good proof but 0-4 would certainly give us a better sample size.

He punted half the first season saving eligibility for his QB but your point is fair, Klieman wins a few more if Sky remains healthy this year.  I think WVU will be 2 games or so better than us next year in league play and likely maintain that advantage for as long as both coaches are here.

7-10 (likely 7-11) vs 9-9 is far more meaningful
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« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2020, 12:31:30 PM »
I think we should probably watch the recruits play a game or two before deciding we aren't competing with West Virginia.

0-2 is pretty good proof but 0-4 would certainly give us a better sample size.



7-10 (likely 7-11) vs 9-9 is far more meaningful
He punted half the first season saving eligibility for his QB but your point is fair, Klieman wins a few more if Sky remains healthy this year.  I think WVU will be 2 games or so better than us next year in league play and likely maintain that advantage for as long as both coaches are here.


Doege will be a junior next year for the third consecutive year and will have played each year. He will have the opportunity to be a college quarterback who has started 6 years. That's wild.

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Re: Klieman ain't the answer
« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2020, 12:41:41 PM »
I think we should probably watch the recruits play a game or two before deciding we aren't competing with West Virginia.

0-2 is pretty good proof but 0-4 would certainly give us a better sample size.



7-10 (likely 7-11) vs 9-9 is far more meaningful
He punted half the first season saving eligibility for his QB but your point is fair, Klieman wins a few more if Sky remains healthy this year.  I think WVU will be 2 games or so better than us next year in league play and likely maintain that advantage for as long as both coaches are here.


Doege will be a junior next year for the third consecutive year and will have played each year. He will have the opportunity to be a college quarterback who has started 6 years. That's wild.

Yea the QB’s in the league next year are going to be old balls
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