South Carolina was not getting talent in state before Frank...for a long time. Frank wins with two home state players to his credit. He made a final 4 at a program that does not have the same history as KSU, although over the last 25 years, they look more similar than different. Frank can win at places that are hard to win at. I think that is all we really know, any of these other silly debates about he and oscar turn into pissing matches among loyalists. How Frank recruits in the short to medium will tell us a lot about how good he is. Turnover and retention are always issues everywhere, but good recruiting should solve that problem. I don't think Frank is really ruining kids with his style of coaching. I think they need to locate players that can handle the style. He's brought in a lot of 3 stars lately, if they can play his style, that's good enough talent to win and play in March often. This is not some generational struggle between hard nosed, out of touch coaching guy and youngsters who are soft and weak. They'll locate the right guys eventually. And yea, he took them to a Final 4. Pretty much none of us have been alive to see that happen at KSU.
Also, John Currie ruined all of the fun.