official thread to discuss money siphoned from the ku athletic department to

[OregonSmock]

Maybe Lew needs to spend less time running off the best football coach ku has ever or will ever have and worry a little more about what's going on, oh . . . down the hall a spell.

Mangino wouldn't have been able to survive the accusations.  No one wanted to play for him, and players were going to transfer.  The seven losses in a row were the icing on the cake.  Quit acting like Perkins had any other choice.

[OregonSmock]

So ah, we got little problem with some tickets missing??  What are talking about here . . . 2-300??

Ah . . . no . . . 17,609 to be exact.

Over the course of several years. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Maybe Lew needs to spend less time running off the best football coach ku has ever or will ever have and worry a little more about what's going on, oh . . . down the hall a spell.

Mangino wouldn't have been able to survive the accusations.  No one wanted to play for him, and players were going to transfer.  The seven losses in a row were the icing on the cake.  Quit acting like Perkins had any other choice.

Yes, and gosh knows a guy like Lew Perkins would have never have thought of using proxies in order to help him garner backing of getting rid of Mangino.

But that being said, this thread is about the absolute absurd notion that everybody in senior ku athletic administration was just completely    about the thousands of missing tickets and millions in lost revenue.

[OregonSmock]

Maybe Lew needs to spend less time running off the best football coach ku has ever or will ever have and worry a little more about what's going on, oh . . . down the hall a spell.

Mangino wouldn't have been able to survive the accusations.  No one wanted to play for him, and players were going to transfer.  The seven losses in a row were the icing on the cake.  Quit acting like Perkins had any other choice.

Yes, and gosh knows a guy like Lew Perkins would have never have thought of using proxies in order to help him garner backing of getting rid of Mangino.

But that being said, this thread is about the absolute absurd notion that everybody in senior ku athletic administration was just completely    about the thousands of missing tickets and millions in lost revenue.

The guys involved were pretty high up in the KU athletic department... they were the ones dealing with the Williams fund members and the complimentary tickets.  It's totally possible and even probable that Lew Perkins didn't know about the problem until it was too late.     

[mcmwcat]

 

[captaincrap]

It's totally possible and even probable that Lew Perkins didn't know about the problem until it was too late.     

That is called negligence, and is also a fireable offense.

[sonofdaxjones]

That's the case a lot with Lew . . . he just didn't know until it was too late . . . who knew . . . 

Quit making it sound like ku athletics is some multi billion dollar corporation, with thousands of employees Ben.

It's a $60 or $70 million dollar operation with every employee housed within a mile of each other.

[deputy dawg]

Hold on....Lew said the most important thing is that someone accepts responsibility.  AND, Lew accepted responsibility.  Man, I sure feel a lot better about the pervasive corruption and incestuous dealings at ku now.

[CNS]

Maybe Lew needs to spend less time running off the best football coach ku has ever or will ever have and worry a little more about what's going on, oh . . . down the hall a spell.

Mangino wouldn't have been able to survive the accusations.  No one wanted to play for him, and players were going to transfer.  The seven losses in a row were the icing on the cake.  Quit acting like Perkins had any other choice.

Sounds familiar.
 

[OregonSmock]

Maybe Lew needs to spend less time running off the best football coach ku has ever or will ever have and worry a little more about what's going on, oh . . . down the hall a spell.

Mangino wouldn't have been able to survive the accusations.  No one wanted to play for him, and players were going to transfer.  The seven losses in a row were the icing on the cake.  Quit acting like Perkins had any other choice.

Sounds familiar.
 

[EllToPay]

The guys involved were pretty high up in the KU athletic department... they were the ones dealing with the Williams fund members and the complimentary tickets.  It's totally possible and even probable that Lew Perkins didn't know about the problem until it was too late.     

You would make a terrible business owner.

[CNS]

Maybe Lew needs to spend less time running off the best football coach ku has ever or will ever have and worry a little more about what's going on, oh . . . down the hall a spell.

Mangino wouldn't have been able to survive the accusations.  No one wanted to play for him, and players were going to transfer.  The seven losses in a row were the icing on the cake.  Quit acting like Perkins had any other choice.

Sounds familiar.
 

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=4055.0

[deputy dawg]

Maybe Lew needs to spend less time running off the best football coach ku has ever or will ever have and worry a little more about what's going on, oh . . . down the hall a spell.

Mangino wouldn't have been able to survive the accusations.  No one wanted to play for him, and players were going to transfer.  The seven losses in a row were the icing on the cake.  Quit acting like Perkins had any other choice.

Sounds familiar.
 

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=4055.0

Is there a "blindside" emoticon, because I'm pretty sure he didn't see that coming.

[OregonSmock]

None of KU's players transferred after Gill was hired.  He kept all but a few recruits as well, and stole a 4-star running back from Stanford.
 

[michigancat]

I love the theory that Lew "they don't call him Dollar Bill for nothin" Perkins allowed $3 million in tickets to just slip through the cracks. 

Love it.

[OregonSmock]

I love the theory that Lew "they don't call him Dollar Bill for nothin" Perkins allowed $3 million in tickets to just slip through the cracks. 

Love it.

Exactly... why would Lew "allow" his athletic department to lose money?



 

[captaincrap]

I love the theory that Lew "they don't call him Dollar Bill for nothin" Perkins allowed $3 million in tickets to just slip through the cracks. 

Love it.

Exactly... why would Lew "allow" his athletic department to lose money?
 

Um... pretty sure you are misinterpreting what he's saying. 

[sonofdaxjones]

What's a POSSIBLE $3 million (they don't know for sure, they THINK it COULD be that much) when you can funnel a bunch of money to top recruits and use winning to make a lot more money than a POSSIBLE $3 million dollars.  

An all cash transaction ticket scalping operation involving a former ku basketball player/booster/father of the current player.

Not hard to envision at all . . . if a crooked developer isn't grinding an axe and taking people down with him, we aren't even discussing this today.

[OregonSmock]

I love the theory that Lew "they don't call him Dollar Bill for nothin" Perkins allowed $3 million in tickets to just slip through the cracks. 

Love it.

Exactly... why would Lew "allow" his athletic department to lose money?
 

Um... pretty sure you are misinterpreting what he's saying. 

"Allowing" something to happen means that you're conscious of the situation.  If Lew "allowed" it to happen, he knew about it.  Most KU fans are claiming he didn't know about it.  
 

[sonofdaxjones]

It's the same old story.

A couple of years ago Tardville was all puffed out and proud talking about how their football coach was a task master who knew every little thing that was going on in the football program . . . a few months later according to Tardville he couldn't have possibly of have known that academic fraud was being committed right there in the football offices.

Then it was Lew the puppet master Perkins that had Tardville all puffed up . . . nobody farted inside ku athletics without Lew knowing about it.    Now . . . how could he have possibly have known that 17,000 plus tickets were sold through and illegal ticket scalping operation over a 5 year period?

You can't make this $hit up.

[captaincrap]

I love the theory that Lew "they don't call him Dollar Bill for nothin" Perkins allowed $3 million in tickets to just slip through the cracks. 

Love it.

Exactly... why would Lew "allow" his athletic department to lose money?
 

Um... pretty sure you are misinterpreting what he's saying. 

"Allowing" something to happen means that you're conscious of the situation.  If Lew "allowed" it to happen, he knew about it.  Most KU fans are claiming he didn't know about it.  
 

yes, i am aware that KU fans think this. At the risk of speaking for the esteemed michigancat, I believe he was implying that a man highly regarded for his financial acumen (thus the Dollar Bill reference) would actually be far more likely to, in fact, know stuff about money and tickets. That it would be far less likely that he would NOT be conscious of it.

And by the way, as I pointed out earlier — if he by some remote chance he didn't know, that in and of itself is a fireable offense to not be aware of your own senior staff's dealings and the loss of millions of dollars (on top of his prior unawareness of academic fraud and lack of institutional control). For a man lauded for his abilities, he sure seems to "not know" alot of stuff.

[deputy dawg]

I wonder if the organizaton that named Lew "Sports Executive of the Year' want their award back?  This was in full swing while he was collecting that award.  That, and alleged abuse of football players by that mean old Mangino.  I don't think Lew "knew" about that either. 

[steve dave]

I love the theory that Lew "they don't call him Dollar Bill for nothin" Perkins allowed $3 million in tickets to just slip through the cracks. 

Love it.

Exactly... why would Lew "allow" his athletic department to lose money?
 

Um... pretty sure you are misinterpreting what he's saying. 

"Allowing" something to happen means that you're conscious of the situation.  If Lew "allowed" it to happen, he knew about it.  Most KU fans are claiming he didn't know about it.  
 

This is my favorite thing in this thread so far

[Jeffy]

So ah, we got little problem with some tickets missing??  What are talking about here . . . 2-300??

Ah . . . no . . . 17,609 to be exact.

BILL
For now, why don't you get a flashlight and a can of pesticide and -

Dom enters.

DOM
Bill! We need you upstairs right away. Some major glitch in the
accounting. A lot of money missing.

They go upstairs and Bill turns off the light.

[OregonSmock]

Holy sh*t... this Wetzel guy is completely shaming Kietzman right now.