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we understand it better now that the american century is over and some of us sound more and more like serbs.

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #102 on: August 14, 2018, 04:02:28 PM »
I’m riddled with shame. White shame. This isn’t helpful to me or to anyone, especially people of color. I feel like there is no “me” outside of my white/upper middle class/cisgender identity. I feel like my literal existence hurts people, like I’m always taking up space that should belong to someone else.

I consider myself an ally. I research proper etiquette, read writers of color, vote in a way that will not harm P.O.C. (and other vulnerable people). I engage in conversations about privilege with other white people. I take courses that will further educate me. I donated to Black Lives Matter. Yet I fear that nothing is enough. Part of my fear comes from the fact that privilege is invisible to itself. What if I’m doing or saying insensitive things without realizing it?

Another part of it is that I’m currently immersed in the whitest environment I’ve ever been in. My family has lived in the same apartment in East Harlem for four generations. Every school I attended, elementary through high school, was minority white, but I’m now attending an elite private college that is 75 percent white. I know who I am, but I realize how people perceive me and this perception feels unfair.

I don’t talk about my feelings because it’s hard to justify doing so while people of color are dying due to systemic racism and making this conversation about me would be again centering whiteness. Yet bottling it up makes me feel an existential anger that I have a hard time channeling since I don’t know my place. Instead of harnessing my privilege for greater good, I’m curled up in a ball of shame. How can I be more than my heritage?

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #103 on: August 14, 2018, 05:07:07 PM »
hi spracne.  thanks for writing in about your crippling sense of shame regarding your whiteness.  my advice is that you stop deluding yourself into thinking you can be more than your heritage.  if you were to fully understand the depth of your white privilege, which seems to be invisible to you, you would hopefully feel more white shame and white guilt.

good luck, spracs!
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #104 on: August 14, 2018, 05:17:59 PM »
Man, the goPow c and p’s are getting weirder and weirder
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #105 on: August 14, 2018, 05:20:10 PM »
Ha, I would love to see the replies if that was posted on gpc  :eek:
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #106 on: August 14, 2018, 05:41:50 PM »
That seemed made up

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2018, 07:07:18 PM »
I never realized how tough you white guys have it in America.  Now I understand why you had to vote for Trump.
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2018, 08:41:59 PM »
I never realized how tough you white guys have it in America.  Know I understand why you had to vote for Trump.

that's the future, afaict.
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #109 on: August 14, 2018, 09:19:44 PM »
White guys in America: The riches to rags story.

A cautionary tale in losing the upper(white) hand
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #110 on: August 15, 2018, 04:07:00 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/style/white-guilt-privilege.html
That guy is really admirable.  We should all strive to hate ourselves to a similar degree.


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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #111 on: August 16, 2018, 09:08:53 AM »
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Re: Race in America thread
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2018, 09:37:49 AM »
why the difference in voter turnout along racial lines?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections#Race,_ethnicity,_and_voter_turnout

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2018, 10:43:58 AM »
31.6% of all the hispanics in this country voted fraudulently for Hillary.

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2018, 12:20:06 PM »
31.6% of all the hispanics in this country voted fraudulently for Hillary.

obama** and since it's census data you'd say it's like 15.8%!!

why don't asians vote?  :confused:




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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2018, 01:32:25 PM »
there's quite a disparity between pew's numbers and the census bureau's. i'm honestly curious about whose are more accurate.

it'd be easier to measure the effect of the language barrier than an attitude that asians keep their heads down.  after thinking about it a bit, i'd guess that some of the lower turnout from asians and hispanics is due to not having families with historical political experiences.  hearing that your grandma divorced grandpa because he voted for nixon is likely to give you a sense that these things matter, you don't get that if you're first or second generation american.

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #118 on: August 16, 2018, 01:51:06 PM »
the census data look like they are giving the % of individuals who voted, the pew data look like % of eligible voters.  obviously, asians and hispanics include many more non-citizens than whites and blacks do.  my guess is that's the difference noted.
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #120 on: September 18, 2018, 12:14:04 PM »
https://nypost.com/2018/ 09/18/school-superintendent-on-texans-star-you-cant-count-on-a-black-qb/

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #121 on: September 18, 2018, 02:37:37 PM »
this is fascinating.

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #122 on: October 15, 2018, 09:39:05 PM »
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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #123 on: October 25, 2018, 01:13:38 PM »
This is what shocked me the most about Trump's election. When I learned that I was not NEARLY as woke as I'd thought I might have been.

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Re: Race in America thread
« Reply #124 on: October 25, 2018, 01:18:27 PM »
Some decent points there.


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