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Quote from: DQ12 on January 25, 2021, 10:43:00 AMQuote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2021, 09:20:50 PMQuote from: sys on January 24, 2021, 09:07:43 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2021, 08:57:36 PMWho made this argument? Kat Kad didn't, rusty didn't, I didn't, I'm certain that isn't the point dal9 was making.then what were your points?Mine? Thought it was fairly obvious and plainly stated. It's stupid to associate anarchists with any part of the political left, because they are by definition apolitical. The far political left doesn't want government abolished, in fact they/we/whomever the far political left is want the opposite of abolishing government. Same thing with attempts to the fascists to the political right. Fascists don't believe in government, the far political right, at least they used to believe in a limited government role, but still want a government, fascists don't.Again, we're running into the problem with the singular right/left paradigm, but I think fascists believe in government as much more or more than any other ideology believes in government.Two different times in this thread I made the distinction of our form of government, I don't want to keep having to type that disclaimer in, at some point we should all give each other credit for knowing that fascism favors authoritarians and dictatorial power and that isn't how our government works, so no fascists do not represent the American political right. I'm sure there are a few thousand trump supporters who wouldn't mind trump being a dictator but the point of all of this is that it's wrong to associate extremists with people who fundamentally believe in a democracy.As far as I can tell everyone but sys agrees with this, yet here we are in a "well actually" off.
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2021, 09:20:50 PMQuote from: sys on January 24, 2021, 09:07:43 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2021, 08:57:36 PMWho made this argument? Kat Kad didn't, rusty didn't, I didn't, I'm certain that isn't the point dal9 was making.then what were your points?Mine? Thought it was fairly obvious and plainly stated. It's stupid to associate anarchists with any part of the political left, because they are by definition apolitical. The far political left doesn't want government abolished, in fact they/we/whomever the far political left is want the opposite of abolishing government. Same thing with attempts to the fascists to the political right. Fascists don't believe in government, the far political right, at least they used to believe in a limited government role, but still want a government, fascists don't.Again, we're running into the problem with the singular right/left paradigm, but I think fascists believe in government as much more or more than any other ideology believes in government.
Quote from: sys on January 24, 2021, 09:07:43 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2021, 08:57:36 PMWho made this argument? Kat Kad didn't, rusty didn't, I didn't, I'm certain that isn't the point dal9 was making.then what were your points?Mine? Thought it was fairly obvious and plainly stated. It's stupid to associate anarchists with any part of the political left, because they are by definition apolitical. The far political left doesn't want government abolished, in fact they/we/whomever the far political left is want the opposite of abolishing government. Same thing with attempts to the fascists to the political right. Fascists don't believe in government, the far political right, at least they used to believe in a limited government role, but still want a government, fascists don't.
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2021, 08:57:36 PMWho made this argument? Kat Kad didn't, rusty didn't, I didn't, I'm certain that isn't the point dal9 was making.then what were your points?
Who made this argument? Kat Kad didn't, rusty didn't, I didn't, I'm certain that isn't the point dal9 was making.
Until revoked, congratulations to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-Goebbels you are the official public relations face of #blueanonFor continuing to propagate and speak to insane conspiracy theories
Until you’re permanently banned from twitter. Then there are no more tweets.
sanders is more of a shitlib than people credit.https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1368986051201601538
progressives call less radical dems shitlibs sometimes. sanders earns the term for backing newsom instead of trying to squeeze some dsa freak into office with like 22% of the vote in the referendum.
